A Zeal is not the answer then. They're not a super long lasting engine, they're not very torquey at all, like you want in a commuter. They need to be revved.
You might enjoy commuting on a VT250 Spada or VT250 more as they don't need all the revs.
The Zeal isn't exceptionally good on gas either being a small 4cyl, my 600 will be as good/better on gas.
I'd recommend a step to a Suzuki GSF400 Bandit, SV400, RF400. Honda CB250 Hornet, CB400. Kawasaki ZZR400 or something similar.
The Scorpio is theoretically a better commuter than the Zeal, lower maintenance and less petrol usage.
Try a VT250 Spada for size, it's better for commuting than the 4 cyl bikes and mine returned 4L/100km over 130,000km of my bad riding.
the options open up. look at all the people on 250s cos the law says they have to, that complain about size issues, lack of power for longer highway commuting, or lack of options when it comes to a larger person. Of course, even with lams, plenty of people will still opt for the 250's. but those people in my opinion will be the minority. there will be shitloads of 250's sitting around, and the only way to sell them will be to drop the price far enough that its worth it to save the coin over a bigger bike.
Im sure they did, but come the time those people try a bigger bike, they'll more than likely find that while the scorpio was a good 250(ish) cc bike, when compared to something bigger, its awfull.
Great in their own right, but fall down when in comparison
forgot to add, look into what aftermarket adjustable rearsets will bolt directly onto your bike would probably be the best bet
I never said Scorpios were the best ever, but a real good starter bike. I agree that the value of 250s will drop. Really would you buy a 250 when you could have a 500/600? I would jump in a second if allowed. I know of an old XJ600 that I would love.
Im happy in the fact that I doubt I will loose much if any when time comes to sell, Owes me about 1k and I reckon a motorbike with wof and reg should be worth about that.![]()
Well, the additional bikes wont be any more "powerful". They all have the same 150kw/tonne restriction. And some current 250cc and under bikes wont be allowed for learners any more (already too powerful). LAMS just levels the playing field to restricting learners to comparable bikes.
Yes, they can get a bigger bike, but if the bike has a heavier frame the engine will have to have less power output, to still meet the same 150 kw/tonne restriction. Or shall I say, a gutless 400.
So I don't see LAMs presenting that many different options. But yes, it does effectively allow some larger less powerful bikes.
Thanks, but thinking of the time and energy it'll take me to tie down the sheep on my seat after the struggles, plus riding down the motorway with an automatic bleater "Baa-baaaaa" all the way to work would make that idea a bit hard to implement. I might get fined for littering the motorway with sheep pellets too.![]()
Yep Torque spread vs peak HP.
Also everyone young male learns everything there is to riding within about a week, and is ready to step up to a litre bike straight away. When you add that to CC rating being directly related to how fast it is (weight and engine configuration make no difference) then of course the larger capacity bikes will be in more demand.
Seriously I wonder what the market for sub 250cc bikes is like for existing LAMS states in Oz ? Will be a good indicator how it will be for us compared to now.
Ciao Marco
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