Is John Key the man to lead NZ?

[Hinny]

Does the left have an exclusive on intelligence?

From reading KB; it would appear so.

[Hinny]

Explain why then the most intellectual and learned MP in the Britsish parliament in the last century was firmly of right wing persuasion?

You talking about the War Criminal Tony Blair?
Right wing Labour leader. - sunk the boat.
You can't be talking about the cock-head Cameron so you must be talking about the grocer's daughter.

[Robert Taylor]

You talking about the War Criminal Tony Blair?
Right wing Labour leader. - sunk the boat.
You can't be talking about the cock-head Cameron so you must be talking about the grocer's daughter.

Wrong on all counts, back to the startline.

[Hinny]

Still awaiting your answers to previous questions.
Here's another to ponder.
Is Jonkey a Bush Baby or a Cock-head Cameron Curmudgeon?

[Hinny]

Explain why then the most intellectual and learned MP in the Britsish parliament in the last century, firmly of right wing persuasion, was still a plonker?

Arrrgghh - Dunno.

[avgas]

Is the cuntry fixed yet?

[Robert Taylor]

Arrrgghh - Dunno.

Well you better start reading then, your history seems to be a bit blinkered and lacking

[Robert Taylor]

Arrrgghh - Dunno.

Changing the wording of my post is about as despicable as Sue Bradfords accusations re Key last night. Certainly the left seems to be a lot less ethical with their tactics.

[Winston001]

You talking about the War Criminal Tony Blair?
Right wing Labour leader. - sunk the boat.
You can't be talking about the cock-head Cameron so you must be talking about the grocer's daughter.

Enoch Powell.


The recent riots in Britain are viewed by commentators as validation of Powell's Rivers of Blood speech in 1968. His argument was that Britain faced grave social unrest and the unravelling of civil society because of the huge numbers of immigrants from the colonies. Pakistan, India, the Caribbean, various African countries.

He was a complex highly educated British Member of Parliament, intellectually far beyond the average politician. Unfortunately for him he was tagged as a racist (because that's an easy label) and the substance of anything he had thereafter was filtered through that public perception.

Our own example (from the other end of the spectrum) is John Minto. He forever carries the Mark of Caine from the 1981 Springbok Tour campaign. Today if John Minto engages in public political action he is despised even if he may well be making a valid point.

[Hinny]

Changing the wording of my post is about as despicable as Sue Bradfords accusations re Key last night. Certainly the left seems to be a lot less ethical with their tactics.

Yeahm nah, ... look this is about humour.
Sue Bradford being the realist and arguably the most successful politician of the modern era was being sincere, truthful and accurate.
Before you attack my comments on her success you may recall that during the last election Jonkey was claiming they were early and strong supporters of her 'anti-bashing and getting away with it ' bill. She introduced three bills to parliament which were accepted and became laws. This in one term.
How many has Jonkey introduced in his first three terms - One. And wasn't that a Green's initiative? They certainly worked on it.

[Robert Taylor]

Yeahm nah, ... look this is about humour.
Sue Bradford being the realist and arguably the most successful politician of the modern era was being sincere, truthful and accurate.
Before you attack my comments on her success you may recall that during the last election Jonkey was claiming they were early and strong supporters of her 'anti-bashing and getting away with it ' bill. She introduced three bills to parliament which were accepted and became laws. This in one term.
How many has Jonkey introduced in his first three terms - One. And wasn't that a Green's initiative? They certainly worked on it.

I see that is was more of a tradeoff for Labour to stay in power.

I dont see it as humour changing the wording of peoples posts, that is crossing an unacceptable line of etiquette.

[SPman]

Enoch Powell.


The recent riots in Britain are viewed by commentators as validation of Powell's Rivers of Blood speech in 1968. His argument was that Britain faced grave social unrest and the unravelling of civil society because of the huge numbers of immigrants from the colonies. Pakistan, India, the Caribbean, various African countries.

He was a complex highly educated British Member of Parliament, intellectually far beyond the average politician. Unfortunately for him he was tagged as a racist (because that's an easy label) and the substance of anything he had thereafter was filtered through that public perception.

Our own example (from the other end of the spectrum) is John Minto. He forever carries the Mark of Caine from the 1981 Springbok Tour campaign. Today if John Minto engages in public political action he is despised even if he may well be making a valid point.

Yep - you don't need to be either right or left, to be able to see what's coming - just astute and well versed on world politics and history, - Enoch was a good example of that.

Anyway, back to the question - looks like Jonkey is the man to lead NZ whether many want him to or not.

[Maha]

And Helen Clark by 9 years!!!

Weird....I always thoughts its name was Alan?....

[Virago]

Weird....I always thoughts its name was Alan?....

No, that's not Alan, it's Steve...

[avgas]

Sue Bradford being the realist and arguably the most successful politician of the modern era was being sincere, truthful and accurate.

Define modern.
Using your theory Hitler, Stalin and Mao could also fall into the same category. Is that good?
Not to mention imagine what would happen if NZ first had decent footing in NZ.....imagine the consequences.

I used to vote greens. Bradford reminded me why I shouldn't.