Is John Key the man to lead NZ?

[Brian d marge]

oh dear........ the great unwashed have spoken.........

still, on the bright side..... one doesn't have to live there

[pete376403]

On the bright(er) side, John Banks won't be dragging anyone in on his coat tails

[Berries]

Is John Key the man to lead NZ?

I don't really follow politics, but from the five minutes I just saw on TV the answer is yes.

[rainman]

still, on the bright side..... one doesn't have to live there

No doubt another 100,000 or so will figure that out in the next few years.

[SPman]

oh dear........ the great unwashed have spoken.........

still, on the bright side..... one doesn't have to live there

True, looks like there'll be no incentive to return, for at least another 3 yrs , either.....I'll wait until the exchange rate hits $1.50.....

[mashman]

No doubt another 100,000 or so will figure that out in the next few years.

until they all return expecting the pension that they're entitled to.

[Pussy]

I'm rapt with tonight's result!

[scott411]

oh dear........ the great unwashed have spoken.........

still, on the bright side..... one doesn't have to live there

So are you saying democracy is only any good when you agree with who won? and if they do not vote the same way you would they are to be made fun of?

[Brian d marge]

So are you saying democracy is only any good when you agree with who won? and if they do not vote the same way you would they are to be made fun of?

yes

Next question


The great unwashed also bring us dancing with the stars , .....shortland street , and many other classics


Stephen

[scott411]

yes

Next question


The great unwashed also bring us dancing with the stars , .....shortland street , and many other classics


Stephen

and your solution is?
this holds true for me,

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Winston Churchill

[Brian d marge]

and your solution is?
this holds true for me,

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Winston Churchill

Sterilization and me being the Father of a new generation


On a serious note have stated my solution, many times before ,

in a nut shell , It doesn't matter what package you call it , democracy , Marxism when the checks and balances go out of whack , usually through greed , the "social Contract " as Rousseau put it will be broken, as Churchill pointed out

In our case , hang on Ill cut and paste from my web blog thingy , tis easier we dont need to reinvent the wheel , of even vote labour , just keep the lying toe-rags honest and the IMF out .....

What should we do from Prof Jane Kelsey's book;

Take economic fundamentalism seriously ..
* Nip it in the bud ..
* Be skeptical about fiscal and other "crises" ..
* Watch for the blitzkrieg ...
* Remember, the conservatives are not always the worst ..
* Take economics seriously ..
* Expose the illogic of their theory ..
* Evaluate the arguments carefully ..
* Challenge hypocrisy ..
* Expose 'stacking of the deck' .. ( I am not sure what this is )
* Maximize every political obstacle ..
* Maintain a strong civil society and popular sector ..
* Work hard to maintain solidarity ..
* Do not compromise the labour movement ..
* Employ the politics of political embarrasment ..
* Reinforce the concept of an independant public service ..
* Encourage community leaders to speak out ..
* Avoid anti-intellectualism ..
* Establish well-resourced critical think-tanks ..
* Develop alternative media outlets ..
* Raise the levels of popular economic literacy ..
* Educate popular and sectoral groups in advance ..
* Resist 'market-speak' ..
* Be realistic and avoid nostalgia ..
* Be pro-active and develop real alternatives ..
* Re-think identity and alliances ..
Challenge the TINA ( there is no alternative ) syndrome .. ( again not I am not sure )
* Promote informed debate and critique ..
* Promote participatory democracy ..
* Embrace the Treaty of Waitangi as a liberating force ..
* Encourage progressive counter-nationalism ..
* Develop multi-level strategies ..
* Hold the line ..
* Localise politics ..
* Ginger up party politics ..
* Invest in the future ..
* Support those who speak out ..
* Promote ethical investment ..
* Think global, act local ..
* Think local, act global ..

Oh and reduce debt as much as possible or borrow locally so the money stays locall

wear Sandals,

Stephen

[scott411]

thats a nice list, most which should be done now, but how would you pick your goverment or leaders?

[Robert Taylor]

I am of course personally delighted that the left wing parties didnt ''win''. Thats in inverted commas because whoever governs in this environment has very much drawn a short straw, and people who want government help for this and that need to take a reality check, there is none!
Im especially happy with the result in my own electorate where Jonathan Young absolutely smashed Andrew Little, the union short a..e still of course gets into Parliament because of being so high on Labours list and because of mmp. That sucks.
But its the same old same old, the mix may change a little but over the last few decades approximately half of NZ have been instinctively right wing voters and the other half left wing.

[shrub]

I don't really follow politics, but from the five minutes I just saw on TV the answer is yes.

that was always going to happen, I reckon the only way National would have lost is if Key had come out as a crack dealing homosexual who beat his mother up and supported the Wallabies. We have another 3 years of weak and inept leadership right when we need courage and wisdom.

Fuck we're stupid.

[BoristheBiter]

that was always going to happen, I reckon the only way National would have lost is if Key had come out as a crack dealing homosexual who beat his mother up and supported the Wallabies. We have another 3 years of weak and inept leadership right when we need courage and wisdom.

Fuck we're stupid.

Your too hard on yourself, I would have said slightly dim.