Congratulations 48%

[SPman]

The stupidity of the voters who listened to them and thought it a much better idea to borrow, borrow, borrow and put that same (next) generation in debt up to their eyeballs before they are even old enough to vote absolutely astounds me.

Being that National has managed to more than double our total government debt, could somebody please explain why they're borrowing so heavily?

The OECD’s Statistical Annex predicts New Zealand’s General government gross financial liabilities as a percentage of GDP is set to grow from 28.9% in 2008 to 50% in 2013.

No doubt someone will say under any other mob it would be worse.......

It's interesting that private debt suddenly started to decrease in 2008 while government debt immediately started to increase. Between September 2008 and June 2011 government debt grew by $23.5 billion while private debt fell by $41 billion. This makes National's accounting look decidedly fishy.[/QUOTE]

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'll say it again. Why don't you whining wankers form your own party...or join the one you so love, and show us how fucking good you are. That...or simply shut the fuck up and piss off. Oh that's right, you're experts in every single fucking field known to mankind.

Let's start a new thread. How much difference have you moaning know all cunts made to mankind and this earth we all share?

[mashman]

I'll say it again. Why don't you whining wankers form your own party...or join the one you so love, and show us how fucking good you are. That...or simply shut the fuck up and piss off. Oh that's right, you're experts in every single fucking field known to mankind.

Let's start a new thread. How much difference have you moaning know all cunts made to mankind and this earth we all share?

Don't go hatin on the know alls... are you offering support and funding?

Is that difference to be positive or negative? Coz I haven't killed you all yet, which is both a positive and a negative... as is me not coming into POWER... I would have invented irrigation if someone hadn't beaten me to it... and roads... probably the aqueduct too.

[rainman]

Quite right!
ANY one of the other parties would have done SO much better if they had been voted in eh!
(Tuis moment here in case you believe shit like that)

All a matter of opinion, innit? Personally I'm pretty sure Anything But National would be a better choice in these troubled times. They have no discernible economic plan, are mainly composed of long term seatwarmers (and those are the good ones), have performed poorly even considering the context, have a tendency to do dumb things like implement ideological policy that increases our deficit, and can't do long term planning for shit.

The funniest thing is what sore losers you guys are.

Hey, I didn't lose. The party I voted for returned it's best result so far, with more MPs than ever.

Funny that you reference an article but ignore the very first sentence of it

What, "it's someone else's fault, waah waah..?"

Are You trying to tell us that this political behaviour is something new? ... Well, it ain't!

Sadly, you're quite right there. I'd hope we'd learn, though. Ah well, back to being a grumpy old cynic, I suppose.

So basically the poor have done fuck all to make themselves better off is what that says.

And what that says is that you're a fucking idiot.

[Brian d marge]

I'll say it again. Why don't you whining wankers form your own party...or join the one you so love, and show us how fucking good you are. That...or simply shut the fuck up and piss off. Oh that's right, you're experts in every single fucking field known to mankind.

Let's start a new thread. How much difference have you moaning know all cunts made to mankind and this earth we all share?

I did , buggered off , faced with too much stupidity , and a future Loads of it. I took the only sensible course a young man could . I buggered off. ( oh and I did my fair share before buggering off so there ! )

No , with a glass in one hand and me cock in the other , I can sit back and take pot shots at the natives .....

Time for a spot of Tiffing, me thinks

Stephen

[flyingcrocodile46]

with a glass in one hand and me cock in the other , I can sit back and take pot shots at the natives .....

and amuse them no end with your drinking habits when you forget which hand is holding what.

[scott411]

Being that National has managed to more than double our total government debt, could somebody please explain why they're borrowing so heavily?

The OECD’s Statistical Annex predicts New Zealand’s General government gross financial liabilities as a percentage of GDP is set to grow from 28.9% in 2008 to 50% in 2013.

No doubt someone will say under any other mob it would be worse.......

It's interesting that private debt suddenly started to decrease in 2008 while government debt immediately started to increase. Between September 2008 and June 2011 government debt grew by $23.5 billion while private debt fell by $41 billion. This makes National's accounting look decidedly fishy.

[/QUOTE]

Because they are not being a true right wing goverment and cutting goverment spending down to a level where the current tax take is at, the only party that really wanted to do that was Act, and they are all but sunk,

[Brian d marge]

and amuse them no end with your drinking habits when you forget which hand is holding what.

integral of 8 between the limits of 5 and 3 and the subtraction of 6 .

Stephen

[Robert Taylor]

Because they are not being a true right wing goverment and cutting goverment spending down to a level where the current tax take is at, the only party that really wanted to do that was Act, and they are all but sunk,[/QUOTE]

Well done Scott in stating the obvious. The hypocrisy is that while everyone would like the deficit reduced they still want to have their cake and eat it too. No-one wants any pain. Look at especially the Greeks, been living beyond their means for years and now that the parties over they are getting very violent about it all.
The previous NZ Government had golden economic weather and squandered 9 years of opportunity to move the country forward, the current Government 2008 on ( whoever it was ) has had to contend with costly disasters and a basically bankrupt world economy.
Of course the socialists who always infuriatingly self proclaim the moral high ground would in their opinion have done a lot better.
In the end event we are all hypocrites because we get what we collectively vote for. Act is basically correct, back to core services.

[davebullet]

It simply boils down to this. You can't have cheap TVs and cheap milk. Choose your poison.

[oneofsix]

It simply boils down to this. You can't have cheap TVs and cheap milk. Choose your poison.

Why not? If the asians want to sell us TV's cheap we will take them, they re still even cheaper in the country of manufacture, however our milk, which we provide tax breaks etc for cost more here than when it is exported.

[MisterD]

Being that National has managed to more than double our total government debt, could somebody please explain why they're borrowing so heavily?

Because a) they're hopeless Keynsian muppets and b) they're not prepared to risk the political fall-out of cutting government spending as tax revenues fall.

[shrub]

I'll say it again. Why don't you whining wankers form your own party...or join the one you so love, and show us how fucking good you are. That...or simply shut the fuck up and piss off. Oh that's right, you're experts in every single fucking field known to mankind.

Let's start a new thread. How much difference have you moaning know all cunts made to mankind and this earth we all share?

Hmmm... allow me to interpret your little rant. You disagree with what those of us on the left say, but because your opinion isn't based on anything substantive and you lack the ability to construct and defend a logical and compelling argument in support of your position you want people who don't agree with you to go away and stop making your head spin.

Muppets, too funny!

[Winston001]

Why not? If the asians want to sell us TV's cheap we will take them, they re still even cheaper in the country of manufacture, however our milk, which we provide tax breaks etc for cost more here than when it is exported.

I'm not aware of any tax breaks or subsidies for the dairy industry - our competitors such as the USA would jump on the World Trade Organisation if that was true.

There is a general misunderstanding about milk. The fresh white liquid (mostly water) we buy in our supermarkets is not what we export to the world. Instead we export concentrates in the forms of dried milk powder, butter, cheese, casein, ice-cream etc. The importing countries reconstitute some by adding water but it certainly isn't the fresh stuff we enjoy here.

Carrying and processing fresh milk is much more expensive than dealing with concentrated milk powder.

Just to get a sense of proportion, NZ produces 2% of the worlds dairy products - the United States produces 12%.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hmmm... allow me to interpret your little rant. You disagree with what those of us on the left say, but because your opinion isn't based on anything substantive and you lack the ability to construct and defend a logical and compelling argument in support of your position you want people who don't agree with you to go away and stop making your head spin.

Muppets, too funny!

Yeah you got it in one. People like you are just so much more intelligent than I could ever hope to be, I simply can't fathom what you're saying. You're awesome. Can't understand why you're not the PM. Perhaps you earn too much as a nuclear physicist? Funny that those of you on the left (as clever as you obviously are), are the minority though eh. That must do your head in. Explain that one.