Riders down all OK. Video (Dec 2011)

**Ender EnZed** · 21st December 2011, 19:50

Originally Posted by Trojan

17) If there is aything constructive you would like me to reply to I will endeavour to do so.

Could you find the exact spot on Google Maps and post a link to it?

**dangerous** · 21st December 2011, 20:03

1st of all, man that music track on the vid is crap... serious

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Regardless of road surface it's got me fucked how two bikes can crash on what looks like a straight section of road

edit: actually I'd like to see a shot from up the road preceeding the "crap road"

Were the two that went down the lead bikes or had others already been across that section of road?

at least 3 bikes... and I agree all the way, road looks normal, road seems straight, seems like a case of following and or passing to close, basicly shit house riding ie: riding beyond ones capability and or the bikes... hey what do I know but to blame the road is simiply a piss poor excuse.

edit: fuck just read page one, yet theres 10 pages LOL

**FJRider** · 21st December 2011, 20:14

For what purpose was the video posted in the first place, was it a "what NOT to do" one ... ??? or just a few moments of "fame" for a few. The "not speeding" comment made me laugh ... as they were going too fast for the conditions (otherwise they wouldn't have crashed) and they couldn't get out of each others way. Inexperience on the bike being ridden was one off, following too closely ... a second ... The cause of the THIRD off ... ???

The video will (should)be a must see for anybody organising (or thinking of organising) a GROUP ride ...

**FJRider** · 21st December 2011, 20:16

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

Could you find the exact spot on Google Maps and post a link to it?

It's called AUCKLAND (some maps show it) ... avoid it if you can ...

**McJim** · 21st December 2011, 20:19

Originally Posted by Trojan

5) Third rider in some way back went to dodge people and bikes went down too on same slick. (damaged wrist still in hospital in good spirits though) Side note speed was not a factor all riders were well under speed limit. Will concede 2 riders may have been close I can't confirm this. There were witness that gave statements to police regarding behavior and speed this was not a factor in the accident.

Speed limit is not a recommended velocity but merely the speed at which legal action can be taken should you exceed it. Clearly the speed at which the bend was executed in this instance was not commensurate with the traction coefficient of the surface. The speed was too high for the conditions even though it may have been below the enforceable speed limit. I'm saying this nicely because Katman will be along in a moment to say it nastily.

**Trojan** · 21st December 2011, 20:24

Originally Posted by McJim

Speed limit is not a recommended velocity but merely the speed at which legal action can be taken should you exceed it. Clearly the speed at which the bend was executed in this instance was not commensurate with the traction coefficient of the surface. The speed was too high for the conditions even though it may have been below the enforceable speed limit. I'm saying this nicely because Katman will be along in a moment to say it nastily.

Nice couldn't have said that if I tried bro! as for Katman hes ok just miss understood bless him.

**kiwifruit** · 21st December 2011, 20:27

Originally Posted by Trojan

12) This frail old camera man would love to meet any of the expert riders at the castle on a day that suits you so I can learn from your wisdom and vast knowledge on how to handle this type of road and bend with your feedback which would help me develop into a better rider and maybe one day be able to aspire to your standard of awesomeness.

Where is the castle?

**McJim** · 21st December 2011, 20:27

Originally Posted by Trojan

Nice couldn't have said that if I tried bro! as for Katman hes ok just miss understood bless him.

Hahaha! GOLD! We could call him "Little Miss Understood". What a fantastic euphemism!

**Grantman_** · 21st December 2011, 20:29

And we all know that had it been any one of us on the same patch of road we would have been 100% fine...

As you can see, kiwibiker is full of little angel bikers who ride perfectly all the time and thus have the moral high ground to criticise without being there or seeing it unfold.

**FJRider** · 21st December 2011, 20:29

Originally Posted by Trojan

Nice couldn't have said that if I tried bro! as for Katman hes ok just miss understood bless him.

I don't believe Katman is missunderstood. We all know EXACTlY what he is saying ... and WHY.

Most just wont admit ... he may be right. Or close to the truth at least ...

**Blackbird** · 21st December 2011, 20:32

Originally Posted by FJRider

I don't believe Katman is missunderstood. We all know EXACTly what he is saying ... and WHY.

Most just wont admit ... he may be right. Or close to the truth at least ...

Abso-bloody-lutely!

**McJim** · 21st December 2011, 20:46

Originally Posted by Grantman_

And we all know that had it been any one of us on the same patch of road we would have been 100% fine...

As you can see, kiwibiker is full of little angel bikers who ride perfectly all the time and thus have the moral high ground to criticise without being there or seeing it unfold.

Dude, I ride a bicycle. I'd probably have be doing about 40kph so yeah, I'd have been 100% fine.

**FJRider** · 21st December 2011, 20:48

Originally Posted by Grantman_

And we all know that had it been any one of us on the same patch of road we would have been 100% fine...

Auckland doesn't have the monopoly on crap roads ... but they hog (excuse the pun) the repair funding for most of those they do have ... our crap roads dont get repaired as quickly ...

And whose bright idea was to organise a large group ride over crap roads ... ???

Originally Posted by Grantman_

As you can see, kiwibiker is full of little angel bikers who ride perfectly all the time and thus have the moral high ground to criticise without being there or seeing it unfold.

We didn't feature in the ditch in a vid (well not lately)

So what WAS the reason the video got posted ... ???

**sinfull** · 21st December 2011, 20:48

Originally Posted by Grantman_

And we all know that had it been any one of us on the same patch of road we would have been 100% fine...

As you can see, kiwibiker is full of little angel bikers who ride perfectly all the time and thus have the moral high ground to criticise without being there or seeing it unfold.

What a crock !

Pffft, if i had a licence, why.... i would ... i would.... come down (or is it up?) and show ya... by crikey ....i'd show ya...... but right now...... i'm gonna ... gonna sit out the next 6 weeks and keeboard warri ya !