Riders down all OK. Video (Dec 2011)

[jrandom]

And we all know that had it been any one of us

Who is this 'us', white man?

[Katman]

It will be interesting to see how the tv programme that the camera was there for portrays the event.

We can do without the bad press.

[Laava]

This thread is more entertaining than the night at Show Girls when one of the punters jumped in the pool with the girls. I like your work team.

Thanks, that was me. I was pretending to be a shark and I got a good kicking in the egg sac!

[Grant`]

Thanks, that was me. I was pretending to be a shark and I got a good kicking in the egg sac!

Shark jumping in the pool with some Piranhas?

[FJRider]

This thread is more entertaining than the night at Show Girls when one of the punters jumped in the pool with the girls. I like your work team.

It would have been funnier ... but most of the girls were away doing a group motorbike ride at the time ...

[nosebleed]

It's called AUCKLAND (some maps show it) ... avoid it if you can ...

Auckland doesn't have the monopoly on crap roads ... but they hog (excuse the pun) the repair funding for most of those they do have ... our crap roads dont get repaired as quickly ...

And whose bright idea was to organise a large group ride over crap roads ... ???



We didn't feature in the ditch in a vid (well not lately)


So what WAS the reason the video got posted ... ???

Yawn.
I think you'll find Mangatawhiri is in the Waikato, so what thats got to do with Auckland will need clarification.

And while you're on your "xenophobic" rant, remind us all which island with a population base equivalent to the North Shore has needed $1.7b of taxpayer money to bail out a Madoffian finance company, bled the EQC dry - requiring a levy increase on ALL homeowners, has required the govt. to guarantee at least one insurance co. and now needs further bailing (pun maybe intended) because of flooding in the upper regions.

People in glass houses and all that.

[Berries]

I think you'll find Mangatawhiri is in the Waikato, so what thats got to do with Auckland will need clarification.

It's all north of Kerry Kerry isn't it?


And apologies for the earthquakes and flooding, it won't happen again.

[dangerous]

And we all know that had it been any one of us on the same patch of road we would have been 100% fine...

As you can see, kiwibiker is full of little angel bikers who ride perfectly all the time and thus have the moral high ground to criticise without being there or seeing it unfold.

what a compleat bulshit post, mate this could happen to evey one and all of us... however its unlikely to for those that ride to the conditions not bunched up and can handle there bikes acordingly. as below.

For what purpose was the video posted in the first place, was it a "what NOT to do" one ... ??? or just a few moments of "fame" for a few. The "not speeding" comment made me laugh ... as they were going too fast for the conditions (otherwise they wouldn't have crashed) and they couldn't get out of each others way. Inexperience on the bike being ridden was one off, following too closely ... a second ... The cause of the THIRD off ... ???

The video will (should)be a must see for anybody organising (or thinking of organising) a GROUP ride ...

I would have to 'asume' (I know which we shouldnt) you are right on the head of the nail

[StoneY]

Having organised many group rides ranging from a dozen to several hundred participants, I want to know why the camera bike rider thinks its fine for him to roam the pack endangering every other rider??

His presence and the fact every sing rider looks at him frequently is the main contributor to the 'possibility' of a pile up - and that while being MY opinion, is also a fact.

Its one thing to have a helmet cam, or even a passenger with a hand held but add a bike roaming through the group, screwing all the following distances, closing down escape routes... recipe for disaster.

There was nothing wrong with the road.

[Spearfish]

And we all know that had it been any one of us on the same patch of road we would have been 100% fine...

If I was doing what they were doing with what they were doing it with, then I would have ended doing what they did when they did it.

But I don't so I won't.

[nosebleed]

It's all north of Kerry Kerry isn't it?


And apologies for the earthquakes and flooding, it won't happen again.

Toe paw.

Blame for the natural disasters wasn't my point. It was about a small country with limited resources, and those with the greatest need having priority.
The public have no control over how those resources are allocated.

[Grantman_]

Who is this 'us', white man?

Anyone who can ride their motorcycle at road-going speed. Guess that excludes some.

[Grantman_]

what a compleat bulshit post, mate this could happen to evey one and all of us... however its unlikely to for those that ride to the conditions not bunched up and can handle there bikes acordingly. as below.

"Unlikely" doesn't cut it Mr. Perfect. You weren't there, but seeing as you are so certain you would have aced this scenario, which you are speculating about because you didn't see or experience it, I guess we can take your word for it.

[Paul in NZ]

So really ONE bike went down. A bike that was essentially unfamiliar to the rider and of a different type than hes been used to and the other two were caught up in the chaos? Surely thats significant????? If that first bike that went down was the first bike in the pack then you might have a case for the road but if its not then while the road is a contributing factor its not really the cause.

No - I'm not turning into Katman (bless him) and my motivation is a little different but if we value our past time we need to keep it real.

[munster]

Having organised many group rides ranging from a dozen to several hundred participants, I want to know why the camera bike rider thinks its fine for him to roam the pack endangering every other rider??

His presence and the fact every sing rider looks at him frequently is the main contributor to the 'possibility' of a pile up - and that while being MY opinion, is also a fact.

Its one thing to have a helmet cam, or even a passenger with a hand held but add a bike roaming through the group, screwing all the following distances, closing down escape routes... recipe for disaster.

There was nothing wrong with the road.

Having been on rides before with this camera man, I can assure you he is no danger. His presence (and that of other supporting camera crew) is well briefed to all riders before hand.