Speeding tickets. Why the angst?

[swbarnett]

Either way this thread is about why people have a big fat cry like a little girl when they get a speeding ticket.
If's, but's, maybe's don't mean shit when you get pulled over for speeding.
You get off with a warning or you might get a ticket but either way you should just man up and get over it.
We have a tolerance that most other country's don't, we know what the speed limits are.

I agree. That doesn't make it right.

[schrodingers cat]

The way I see it - a ticket is loosely a right to speed token. Every so often you have to by a new one. Too many and you get to take the bus for a while.

[superman]

The way I see it - a ticket is loosely a right to speed token. Every so often you have to by a new one. Too many and you get to take the bus for a while.

That's a good one.

Total energy is quadrupled when the speed is doubled. energy = 1/2 * mass * velocity * velocity

30,000 kg truck at 100km/h = 11,574,074 Joules
1500 kg car at 100km/h = 578,703 Joules
250kg (bike + rider) at 140km/h = 189,043 Joules
80kg (pushbike + rider) at 200km/h = 123,456 Joules

[SPman]

Either way this thread is about why people have a big fat cry like a little girl when they get a speeding ticket. - speak for yourself
If's, but's, maybe's don't mean shit when you get pulled over exceeding the posted speed limit
You get off with a warning or you might get a ticket but either way you should just man up and get over it. - don't most people?
We have a tolerance that most other country's don't, we know what the speed limits are. - que?

From riding in Nevada, Arizona and Northern California, it seemed everyone sat about 10-15mph over the 70-75 mph limit...and the cops barely blinked as long as you were otherwise behaving yourself!

[ellipsis]

....whats hard to understand about the rules of the game that we all play, buy into, and cant really play outside of, without the referees blowing their whistles when we cheat...simple really...the real crime is being caught, it seems....

[superman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcYxr0RsIlY&feature=related

These guys made me laugh!

[FJRider]

From riding in Nevada, Arizona and Northern California, it seemed everyone sat about 10-15mph over the 70-75 mph limit...and the cops barely blinked as long as you were otherwise behaving yourself!

It would still be at the descretion of the officers in those areas ... not policy as such.

As it is in this country.

[SPman]

It would still be at the descretion of the officers in those areas ....

Of course - as it should be, and I'm not naive enough to think that all areas were like that.

..not policy as such.

As it is in this country

I will read that to mean the policy in this country is to remove discretion, where ever possible......which leads to a conflict between those officers who follow the "official" requirements without thought, and those officers who still exercise their own discretion, where and when they can, but have to be careful about it, unless they get themselves in the official crap.

[Edbear]

....whats hard to understand about the rules of the game that we all play, buy into, and cant really play outside of, without the referees blowing their whistles when we cheat...simple really...the real crime is being caught, it seems....

That's the way it goes with about all crimes, doesn't it? "Feel sorry for me, this isn't the real me, I'm not like that, it's not my fault, the Police were acting wrongly, they were unfairly targetting me, it's not fair, I was abused as a child......"

Of course - as it should be, and I'm not naive enough to think that all areas were like that. I will read that to mean the policy in this country is to remove discretion, where ever possible......which leads to a conflict between those officers who follow the "official" requirements without thought, and those officers who still exercise their own discretion, where and when they can, but have to be careful about it, unless they get themselves in the official crap.

The Police on here have often commented on their ability to use discretion, maybe they could remind us how hard it is to get away with it?

[scumdog]

The Police on here have often commented on their ability to use discretion, maybe they could remind us how hard it is to get away with it?

It's not that hard -if the rider/driver is speeding and not stopped (Got the big finger shaken at them etc) then almost nobody knows.

If the motorist IS stopped and no ticket issued then only two parties (mostly) know that:
offence detected/discretion used/no ticket issued.

So unless the offending party posts on KB (Pff, like THAT happens much!) to say how he/she 'got let off' due to the cop using discretion nobody really knows eh??

[Edbear]

It's not that hard -if the rider/driver is speeding and not stopped (Got the big finger shaken at them etc) then almost nobody knows.

If the motorist IS stopped and no ticket issued then only two parties (mostly) know that:
offence detected/discretion used/no ticket issued.

So unless the offending party posts on KB (Pff, like THAT happens much!) to say how he/she 'got let off' due to the cop using discretion nobody really knows eh??

I think the last time I got let off was at a checkpoint in 1977. Jill was driving the old Vanguard and I was leaning over the back seat changing baby's nappy. Got "advised" that wasn't really a good idea and we should have pulled over to do that, but I think the fact that Jill was wearing a short skirt might have had something to do with the use of "discretion" by the officer...

Mind you I've only been pulled over once since and that was three years ago, got a ticket for 112km/h, bummer, but couldn't argue.

Jill got pulled over for exceeding 50km/h a couple of years ago, but she had a few workmates in the van and she told the officer they were laughing so much she didn't realise she was over the limit... Got let off with a warning...

[rastuscat]

I think the last time I got let off was at a checkpoint in 1977. Jill was driving the old Vanguard and I was leaning over the back seat changing baby's nappy. Got "advised" that wasn't really a good idea and we should have pulled over to do that, but I think the fact that Jill was wearing a short skirt might have had something to do with the use of "discretion" by the officer...

Mind you I've only been pulled over once since and that was three years ago, got a ticket for 112km/h, bummer, but couldn't argue.

Jill got pulled over for exceeding 50km/h a couple of years ago, but she had a few workmates in the van and she told the officer they were laughing so much she didn't realise she was over the limit... Got let off with a warning...

.........and then we bang on about how discretion has died. Yeah right.

Lots of warnings get given, but bugger all gets said about them. Coz it doesn't sound cool to haver been warned. It sounds cooler to bitch about having gotten a ticket and how it's all the revenue collecting, quota matching bastards fault.

So a Popo is a good bastard if he gives a warning, then is a bastard if he writes a ticket. Go figure.

[Edbear]

.........and then we bang on about how discretion has died. Yeah right.

Lots of warnings get given, but bugger all gets said about them. Coz it doesn't sound cool to haver been warned. It sounds cooler to bitch about having gotten a ticket and how it's all the revenue collecting, quota matching bastards fault.

So a Popo is a good bastard if he gives a warning, then is a bastard if he writes a ticket. Go figure.

Well I would definitely post about getting let off but first I have to get pulled over for breaking the law...

[Jantar]

.........and then we bang on about how discretion has died. Yeah right.

Lots of warnings get given, but bugger all gets said about them. Coz it doesn't sound cool to haver been warned. It sounds cooler to bitch about having gotten a ticket and how it's all the revenue collecting, quota matching bastards fault.

So a Popo is a good bastard if he gives a warning, then is a bastard if he writes a ticket. Go figure.

I have been let off with a warning twice. The first time was in 1974 for doing 59 mph in a 50 mph area near Blenheim. It was a written warning. That is I received a ticket, but it had warning only written on it. There were two of us in the Radar beam, so the written warning was fair to both parties.

The second time was just north of Blenheim when I was running late for the ferry in 1984. Same cop, and he gave me an escort to Picton at a slightly higher speed than I had been doing. I deserved a ticket and got an escort, how great is that?

[Edbear]

I have been let off with a warning twice. The first time was in 1974 for doing 59 mph in a 50 mph area near Blenheim. It was a written warning. That is I received a ticket, but it had warning only written on it. There were two of us in the Radar beam, so the written warning was fair to both parties.

The second time was just north of Blenheim when I was running late for the ferry in 1984. Same cop, and he gave me an escort to Picton at a slightly higher speed than I had been doing. I deserved a ticket and got an escort, how great is that?

What? You weren't even in labour?