Cemetery Circuit Prize Giving

[Ocean1]

I believe it was still a good day for the crowds it was abit behind with things but overall you have to expect that theres no room for error really so when you do stuff up it tends to be a bit worse and need a clean up

I think the people spectators and all need to send the organisers an email and let them know what you think needs improving cause like I say without anyone telling them they aint going to know

I enjoyed the day, but the waiting was a bit tedious. I couldn't understand a word of what was on the PA so the post-race winners’ interviews seemed particularly pointless as the day got further and further behind. What disappointed me most was seeing marshals and race officials arguing heatedly on three separate occasions.

It must be bloody hard managing such a circus, but if there was a plan then it obviously wasn’t working well on the day. Maybe the programme has to have 15min built into every second race for cleanups and either cut the number of races to fit the day or start 2 hours earlier.

[Kickaha]

well valid reply it was though!

Here's my valid reply, fuck off cock

Did you ring Andrew and have a word with him about leaking oil at one of the other rounds?

[MOTOXXX]

I must say i do enjoy Wanganui and had a good time this year (apart from being taken out in the second F3 race by some fucker who doesnt know how to use his brakes. i havent raced for a few years there. I cant remember having to wait for so long.

I dont know if it was the organisors, all the crashes and oil spills or a combination of both but the day did run a couple hours behind. Every race i was in was red flagged.
I was in the pits most of the time so didnt really know what was happening.

the ONE thing that got me annoyed was being called out to the dummy grid and then sitting for 15 minutes doing nothing. For some stupid reason the TV cameras decided to interview the winners of some of the races right by the train tracks (in front of the dummy grid) and we couldnt be let out until they had finished and were moved clear of the track..

The PA system could also be improved next year.

im not ranting but it sure was a long but fun day.

[BMWST?]

it is the nature od street circuits.Every crash will involve some cleaning up if not rebuilding of hay beales ,barriers etc.Its hard work for all concerned.

[Grant`]

Well that was second CC I have ever been to so not much to compare it to (spectator not racing) other than the previous time I attended which was 2009.

This time around, I have to say was not as enjoyable by a long shot, although the racing was fantastic as always (when people were not getting hurt) big ups to all the racers out there going for it, mad respect.

The commentator seemed to be more interested in talking about 2girls 1cup and 'you turban' instead of youtube trying to be funny, while most of the crowd was trying to figure out what the fuck had gone on and why there was so many delays taking place and/or what the delay was.

Guy on the quad bike riding up and down the and around and around with no helmet on and then going the wrong way around the track - not to mention forklifts also going wrong way on track. I only question this after the 2009 event commentator stated quite clearly it was unprecedented emergancy which called for ambulance to be allowed to go wrong way around track to collect injured rider.

Ambulances going out around the track, but no explanation from comentators as to why another delay was taking place and the amount of redflags stopping races seemed phenomenal, seemed to be automatic red flag for any incident and I am sure it wasn't that bad last time I was there.

Interview on the race track was great being that I was in the superpass area and it was right where I was sitting, but it was still on a live racetrack and with the next group of riders going out, possibly would of been more appropriate being in the pit area or off the track?

Also what i saw in the centre area and some of the disrespect people paid to the grave sites, if that was my family in there I would be calling for a ban to people being allowed to have it as a viewing area for the racing it was just disgraceful.

Can understand that stuff goes wrong, ultimately things don't always go the way we planned them, but after 59 years of running this event, I would of thought that there would be some sort of well oiled smoothness to the event and more bloody rubbish bins there couldn't have been many more than 10 around the entire course or they were fucking well hidden.

[Maha]

Sounds like a fun time.
There always Paeroa to look forward to...

[roogazza]

The running of Wanganui has been fuked since the day Barbara lett was removed

Baps was a legend. Even Cosford could wrangle a show together.
Personally, I don't bother going anymore.
Hope it gets better in the years to come for everyones sake.

They were great years, we're lucky to have had them but hey nothing is forever.
Haven't bothered for 10 years (and I was mad on Street Meetings), prefer my own rides these days.

[vinducati]

Street racing is a hard event to put on.
I avoid going these days as because of the delays, oil spills, and drunks.
Also I find that for me there are to many classes.
But I realise it is the entry fee of a lot of those other classes that makes the event possible.
Plus the fact that a lot of the top riders missing from F1 and F2 make it a bit of a 2 or 3 horse race.
It is however a tradition that should not be lost.
But I think some thought should be given to making it a better show for the fans.
I would like to see an alcohol ban at street events or a area which the drunks are confined to.

[MSTRS:Me]

To be fair,Running a street circuit is a completely different animal than a closed circuit,There is so much more involved in running on the streets that anybody whos run a glorified club day on a closed circuit successfully would easily be out of their depth,Also I thought these same guys did an excellent job of the previous 2 rounds at Hampton Downs and Manfeild,In over 40 years of competing I have attended a number of meetings that seemed to go pearshaped from the outset and they werent always on street circuits and some of them were run by the most experienced people in the country,There were a number of variables that could have caused the numerous hold ups yesterday,Shit happens,Deal with it!!!I suppose we could all get behind these guys as Ivan has suggested and try and help them out and thank them for the things they got right and the fact they ran a 3 round series and nobody was killed!!!Or not,What was I thinking,This is Kiwibiker,Home of the Kiwi pessimist.

Oh and as for the original reason for the thread,Ive been to many a prizegiving where BB was loud and obnoxious and as your on his team Steve,Im assuming Dan was unable to thank his sponsors and thats what your unhappy about???Ever heard the saying "What goes around,Comes around"????

To be fair - you are partly right.
Street vs track = 2 totally different animals. Trackside officials/marshals are the eyes and ears for Race Control on a street circuit, I understand that, and the red flag calls must be a little harder to get right. There were a few to be sure and TBH I don't begrudge any of them (I'd have made the same call) since a crashed bike and rider is unlikely to be out of harm's way. There were 2 incidents on 'our' corner, which were dealt with tout suite, but there was no understanding of why it took 15/20 minutes to get under way again once cleaned up.
As for no deaths - yep, but to be fair, that is more down to luck and the riders themselves, not the organisers. However, you of all people would be horrified to see a helmetless quaddie out on a live track and going the wrong way as well. I can't imagine the fallout, had a rider run into him. I had a word with the radio marshal on our corner about it, asked him to have race control sort it. I don't know whether he did, but his reaction to my concern said heaps. Said quaddie did eventually wear a helmet, and the whole crowd cheered for that, but it was several hours/incidents later.

[RobGassit]

Racing was good. Organization was a complete CLUSTER FUCK!

[Katman]

Reading some of these comments saddens me. Cemetry Ciruit, Boxing Day Races is a flag ship event for NZ Motorcycling Racing. Well at least it is one of the only times the general public get to be enticed to go along for a looksee at Motorcycling racing if they are not "INTO" it.

If you watch video footage of the event from 30 years ago you could be forgiven for thinking the general public aren't even aware of the event these days. Trackside used to be jam packed once upon a time. I was shocked to see the amount of empty spectator space this year.

[MSTRS:Me]

If you watch video footage of the event from 30 years ago you could be forgiven for thinking the general public aren't even aware of the event these days. Trackside used to be jam packed once upon a time. I was shocked to see the amount of empty spectator space this year.

People don't want to pay $30 to watch the organisers amusing themselves?

[Robert Taylor]

I think its blindingly obvious that for many many reasons ( not only the many delays in this event and people voting with their feet ) street racing will run its course in NZ. Paeroa in particular worries me and god forbid no-one wants to see a repeat of what happened at Le Mans in the late fifties when a Mercedes race car went through a section of crowd like a broom. To this day the ramifications of that tragedy include a ban on motor racing in Switzerland.

[Robert Taylor]

To be fair,Running a street circuit is a completely different animal than a closed circuit,There is so much more involved in running on the streets that anybody whos run a glorified club day on a closed circuit successfully would easily be out of their depth,Also I thought these same guys did an excellent job of the previous 2 rounds at Hampton Downs and Manfeild,In over 40 years of competing I have attended a number of meetings that seemed to go pearshaped from the outset and they werent always on street circuits and some of them were run by the most experienced people in the country,There were a number of variables that could have caused the numerous hold ups yesterday,Shit happens,Deal with it!!!I suppose we could all get behind these guys as Ivan has suggested and try and help them out and thank them for the things they got right and the fact they ran a 3 round series and nobody was killed!!!Or not,What was I thinking,This is Kiwibiker,Home of the Kiwi pessimist.

Oh and as for the original reason for the thread,Ive been to many a prizegiving where BB was loud and obnoxious and as your on his team Steve,Im assuming Dan was unable to thank his sponsors and thats what your unhappy about???Ever heard the saying "What goes around,Comes around"????

Well said Billy and yes it has got to be a nightmare running such a meeting. Certainly though I agree with Shaun in respect of Barbara Lett, she ran a tight ship and nobody messed with her, or with Errol Conaghan. The drunks that were present should have been ex-communicated out of the meeting.
I noted the hypocrisy as well.

[Kickaha]

I think its blindingly obvious that for many many reasons ( not only the many delays in this event and people voting with their feet ) street racing will run its course in NZ.

While it doesn't have the wank factor of Wangas I find Greymouth a far better event from both a Spectator and competitor point of veiw, more racing , less delays