Db1k 2012

[Transalper]

http://gwprojects.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1810

This is the link I used. Using Garmin Mapsource you should be able to plot / edit / create / tweak the entire DB1k route, incl turn / wpt notes etc to suit your own nav needs. I did this for a 900km route mid year and it was sweet. Takes a bit of farkling to get used to doing it, but you should be able to plot a route that includes both autorouting and off road wpts.

That link looks interesting, may be some more updated stuff there.

You have to be real careful if you plan to tweak the DB route files if you aren't familiar with the places as I've noticed some roads and tracks on the maps aren't plotted exactly where they actually are in the real world.

[NordieBoy]

The free auto routing maps don't have roads/tracks, in fact anything, for much of the route. I have bought topos but I think there are some freeby topos combined with the autorouting map set. Transalper or Nordie might be able to post a link or confirm that the following one is the best link? I think it is the link you need.

Point A113 is the beginning of Awakino Saddle (Kurow to Ida Valley). Carricktown start is A188 (south west of Cromwell).

Cheers R

Or

http://www.nzopengps.org/public/DOC_...SRTM_Setup.exe

Works well with the auto routing mapsets.

[cooneyr]

http://gwprojects.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1810

This is the link I used. Using Garmin Mapsource you should be able to plot / edit / create / tweak the entire DB1k route, incl turn / wpt notes etc to suit your own nav needs. I did this for a 900km route mid year and it was sweet. Takes a bit of farkling to get used to doing it, but you should be able to plot a route that includes both autorouting and off road wpts.

I'm a bit nervous of you fellas tweaking the route. All the points are located from data collected is from the real world during pre rides/drives. Like TA said this means the points often don't tie with the maps very well. Also I've included as may points as possible (i.e. 250 or 199 points) in what should be the most useful locations. Also be careful of using autorouting sections. While they may work well for you another person may (will likely) have a different autorouting mapset so it may not work for them and in fact confuse them. Also be careful of the way point names/descriptions if you modify the routes.

Cheers R

[buggsubique]

I'm a bit nervous of you fellas tweaking the route. All the points are located from data collected is from the real world during pre rides/drives. Like TA said this means the points often don't tie with the maps very well. Also I've included as may points as possible (i.e. 250 or 199 points) in what should be the most useful locations. Also be careful of using autorouting sections. While they may work well for you another person may (will likely) have a different autorouting mapset so it may not work for them and in fact confuse them. Also be careful of the way point names/descriptions if you modify the routes.

Cheers R

Wot he said. All at your own risk. Conceivably, you could even have two routes - the official one as the failsafe, and then your own tweaked one depending on what challenge sections you do / do not plan to do, your own fuelstops, modified turn notes etc etc etc.

I would be nervous about thinking I knew better about Ryan's et al's work too.

[cooneyr]

Time for the embarrassment and dissing. Thanks to TA and TimG for their assistance. Check out this vid on youtube about getting the DB1k files onto various GPS models. Apologies for the crap narration. I'll be putting a link on the DB1k website as well.



This process will work for other files as well though you obviously need to think about if you set the route file up for on road or off road routing when you created it (or stole it from another source).

Cheers R

[Aslan]

Excellent tutorial thanks Ryan, Carl and Tim for preparing & posting - cheers S

[dmoo1790]

Actually I'd be quite happy to sell it. Cost $39.99 + P&P. Its larger than i envisioned Trying to mount it on the KTM's like fitting a 42" plasma screen! Can't see anything else on the dash. Needs a cross bar on the handle bars too. Gave it a whirl with the dry glide and electric drill- moves more freely now.

Yeah, the T7 roll chart holder is a monster. I also don't have a cross bar and didn't want it mounted in front of the dash anyway. Took a while to figure out but I now have it hose-clamped to the left side of the bar. I ran the hose clamp between the bottom of the unit and the black plastic clamp that screws on to it so the hose clamp runs in line with the short axis of the unit (if that makes sense?). Bit of foam rubber between hose clamp and bar and it's good and tight. Also mounted it with "rewind" knob to the left to advance the paper because the normal advance knob would stick out too far to the left. Can upload a pic later if anyone's interested.

Paper gets way too tight to advance by turning the one knob so I may clearance the rollers (if I can get it apart without breaking things) or lube them or just wind some slack using the rewind knob before advancing the paper.

Anyone have any clever tricks for pasting/taping the paper sheets into a roll?

[Transalper]

.... or just wind some slack using the rewind knob before advancing the paper.

Thats how I work my home made one. If the rollers are too loose things can unwind through vibration making it difficult to advance the roll and keep it on the correct cell. People have used rubber bands between rolls for tension to stop them unwinding but that didn't work for me either as the two rollers have to turn at different rates when rolling to the next instruction so friction and advance bottom, advance top is how I used mine.
Too much friction may be a pain in the hand though.

Anyone have any clever tricks for pasting/taping the paper sheets into a roll?

Yea, for me the slow way is the quickest and neatest way.
Trying to cut lots of pages at once makes a mess.
Use good long sharp scissors or craft knife with new blade and a good straight edge/steel rule to cut along (but not on the good table) and a good tape dispenser helps more and is less frustrating than cheap crap.
Think about the way you overlap the joins so they do not snag in the holder when rolling.
I took to taping both sides of the joins eventually but you need to trim the pages nicely to fit all that extra tape in the holder too.
These are my lessons learned from Capital Coasts, Canterbury Rides and DB1k's of past.

[alane]

Cut the paper sections abought 10mm long & use a glue stick.
Makes life much easier.
It,s a fine line between to tight & to loose for the rolling action.
Too loose & vibration puts the roll all over the place.
Rubber bands between axles are worth trying .A trial run is recomended ---as thiers no time really after the Dusty,s started & the adrenilin,s pumpin.

1liter split Systema (Google it) home made jobbie is the best I ever had.
Center "split" bit sits over the handlebar crossbrace just great
The roll running over wire axles with drinking straws on em to keep the viewed section near the lid.
Cheers Alan.

[dmoo1790]

Hi folks. I've done the Big Omarama Saddle and Serpentine before so I know how tough (or not) they are (at least when they're fairly dry). But I haven't done the Awakino Saddle and it looks the longest of the 3 challenges. How does it rate compared to Omarama and Serpentine? Just rocky stuff or does it have bogs as well? How steep are the climbs, scrabbling in 1st gear or easier? Any vids of Awakino?

[Transalper]

....Any vids of Awakino?

Oh you are so going to get your ass kicked for that question.
There are links all over the place to the Awakino video and many photos in last years threads.
Give me a minute or two and I'll post them again.

Um... also No bogs, plenty of steepness and many bigger stones.

Actually just remembered the Awakino video link is currently in my signature.
Here it is again... http://youtu.be/QwpJDWY6jFM

It's even linked to on the DB1K website in the Rider Prep page.

[dmoo1790]

I'm going to use my iPhone 3GS mounted in a RAM Aquabox for GPS nav in addition to the roll chart. The gpx file imports into the MotionX GPS app with no problems. It should give me an idea whether I'm heading in the right direction or hopelessly lost. Only problem (so far) is some of the Bing hybrid (sat photo+roads) maps don't seem to be available for download to reasonable zoom factors. Anyone else used an iPhone for this kind of offroad navigation and, if so, what app did you use?

[FJRider]

I'm going to use my iPhone 3GS mounted in a RAM Aquabox for GPS nav in addition to the roll chart. The gpx file imports into the MotionX GPS app with no problems. It should give me an idea whether I'm heading in the right direction or hopelessly lost. Only problem (so far) is some of the Bing hybrid (sat photo+roads) maps don't seem to be available for download to reasonable zoom factors. Anyone else used an iPhone for this kind of offroad navigation and, if so, what app did you use?

I hope it doesn't rely on cell reception to work ...

[dmoo1790]

I hope it doesn't rely on cell reception to work ...

Haha. I'll bite. No, you don't need cell reception so long as you've downloaded maps ahead of time. And you get an initial fix with cell reception which vastly speeds up time to lock.

[dmoo1790]

Oh you are so going to get your ass kicked for that question.
There are links all over the place to the Awakino video and many photos in last years threads.
Give me a minute or two and I'll post them again.

Um... also No bogs, plenty of steepness and many bigger stones.

Actually just remembered the Awakino video link is currently in my signature.
Here it is again... http://youtu.be/QwpJDWY6jFM

It's even linked to on the DB1K website in the Rider Prep page.

Doh! I knew that. Not thinking straight today I guess. Thanks for the link. Looks like a bit of a, what do you call it? Oh yeah, a challenge. Good tyres and momentum look like the solution to the trickier climbs. Respect to the guy on the GS! I would never attempt it on a bike that size.