Ke125

[kel]

No understandy what other engine? Do you mean TZ's suzuki gp125 has been shaped to look like a er... Suzuki Gp125

No the other KE motor (actually its a KH) which was a spare until I decided a water cooled motor was needed for the big/longer races. No pictures of that one until it debuts. Need to get Gigglebutton focused on F4 or it could be some time off yet.

Dyno testing for the 125 is scheduled for early Jan, cant wait to see how it goes.

[kel]

So I figure everyone’s sitting on the edge of their seats awaiting an update ...

Truth is I burnt up my dyno time (and break time) on the FXR. In part I was trying to get it ready to sell as there’s an RS125 chassis out there that I want, plus I wanted to see if it could be built into something competitive. Flat slide carb and performance cams were installed combining to lift the power from its measly 16hp to a touch over 20hp, a 25% increase! Have repacked the muffler to try and quieten the megaphone exhaust (didn’t work to well but I did try) and had wets installed on to the spare rims ready for Taumaranui. One criticism of my FXR is that it didn’t track true around corners, Arrons 68 is the only other FXR that Ive ridden, I was immediately faster on it and shocked at how much better it cornered. Turns out my wheels weren’t aligned, no wonder the rear didn’t track the front like it should . So now I have a faster better handling FXR which with a bit of tart up (and a couple of reasonable results) will be ready to sell.
KE125 coming

[husaberg]

So I figure everyone’s sitting on the edge of their seats awaiting an update ...

Truth is I burnt up my dyno time (and break time) on the FXR. In part I was trying to get it ready to sell as there’s an RS125 chassis out there that I want, plus I wanted to see if it could be built into something competitive. Flat slide carb and performance cams were installed combining to lift the power from its measly 16hp to a touch over 20hp, a 25% increase! Have repacked the muffler to try and quieten the megaphone exhaust (didn’t work to well but I did try) and had wets installed on to the spare rims ready for Taumaranui. One criticism of my FXR is that it didn’t track true around corners, Arrons 68 is the only other FXR that Ive ridden, I was immediately faster on it and shocked at how much better it cornered. Turns out my wheels weren’t aligned, no wonder the rear didn’t track the front like it should . So now I have a faster better handling FXR which with a bit of tart up (and a couple of reasonable results) will be ready to sell.
KE125 coming

ill bite why no pictures of the lc cooled one.
Jason has one its on his avatar so why is yours soooo secret?
One of the most successful tuners of production racers in the 50-60s in the UK use to put his wheels offset on purpose, but still in line with each other as they steered better that way. Sid Lawton. Can't remember why?

[F5 Dave]

it was a silly Norton thing I think, crank weight offset to the side or some ridiculous thing blah blah silly things.

[husaberg]

it was a silly Norton thing I think, crank weight offset to the side or some ridiculous thing blah blah silly things.

Yes but i think he used to do it to all the bikes as well? I might have to read it again. He divulged as few of the other rule bender mods as well. It seem the more tight the rules the more people cheat.

[kel]

ill bite why no pictures of the lc cooled one.
Jason has one its on his avatar so why is yours soooo secret?

Because its not an RG/KE hybrid, thats sooo 90's. Single exhaust port
The wifes a bit pissed at the suggestion of another bucket, something about "why dont you just finish one bike" tried to explain that no bike is ever finished, I followed up with "the boy child is now in school, time you got a job woman" didn't go over as well as I'd anticipated, thankfully its warm in the shed.

[F5 Dave]

Yes but i think he used to do it to all the bikes as well? I might have to read it again. He divulged as few of the other rule bender mods as well. It seem the more tight the rules the more people cheat.

I think they're std like that, silly bodge, don't care enough to research it.

[husaberg]

I think they're std like that, silly bodge, don't care enough to research it.

Too late I ready found it.
According to the article all the the 650ss Norton and indeed all the British big twins were apparently allegedly crap on fast right handlers, because of the alternator and clutch being on the same side. which makes sense because as a rule the Jappa arn't. So they moved the wheels over and it went from Tank slapping on fast right handers with Phil Read on it and nearly not ridding it to steering nearly as good as a Manx Norton. The frame was not bent and was replaced and rejigged as well prior which didn't fix the problem.BTW don't do this on a FXR as they don't have spoked wheels for a start and there clutch is on the other side.

[Buckets4Me]

come on a KE motor is worth 5 times what a GP100-125 motor is worth,KE motors 12 + GP wins GP100-125 GP wins big fat 0

ye but how many times in the last few years have we seen one on the podium at least the gp made a 3rd place showing a few years back (and only 14 h/p at the time)

thats like compairing an MV Agusta to a yamaha superbike. havent seen an MV win recently

[RMS eng]

ye but how many times in the last few years have we seen one on the podium at least the gp made a 3rd place showing a few years back (and only 14 h/p at the time)

thats like compairing an MV Agusta to a yamaha superbike. havent seen an MV win recently

3rd place is not a win ,last time a KE won a GP a taupo the best lap was over 2 seconds faster than than any of the GP125s and 29 HP two strokes last year in the dry,and the main thing is KE has 6 gears not 1970s 5 speed.

[husaberg]

ye but how many times in the last few years have we seen one on the podium at least the gp made a 3rd place showing a few years back (and only 14 h/p at the time)

thats like compairing an MV Agusta to a yamaha superbike. havent seen an MV win recently

Dangerous territory Buckets4me.

Overall how many have Yamaha won even considering the real MV pulled out in 1980 odd
Between 1948 and 1976 MV Agusta motorcycles had won over 3000 races and 63 World Championships overall.
I doubt if you added up Yamahas overall they would be at the same number off Roadracing championships now even if you put in WSB.Remember MV Augusta were a small motorcycle company compared to Yamaha, dedicated yes, but small.

[Buckets4Me]

Dangerous territory Buckets4me.

might have been dangerous territory 50 YEARS ago about the same time they limited the number of gears a bike could have

so how many years ago was the last ke on the podium ?
and or won a GP ?


and i dont remember to many 29h/p bike at the gp last year (or that it was dry)

[Buckets4Me]

Dangerous territory Buckets4me.

I doubt if you added up Yamahas overall they would be at the same number off Roadracing championships now even if you put in WSB.Remember MV Augusta were a small motorcycle company compared to Yamaha, dedicated yes, but small.

so after yamaha brought in a decent watercooled 2 stroke and had some time to develop it we dont hear of to many wins my the mighty MV
post 1976 what did they achieve ? (the old man rolles over and a younger racer takes over)


would realy like to se a few of these KE engined buckets racing up this way

[Buckets4Me]

3rd place is not a win ,

but was better than any KE that year

who said that some cleaver bustard hadn't put a 6 speed in a gp (ok ok couldn't find anything even close)

[husaberg]

might have been dangerous territory 50 YEARS ago about the same time they limited the number of gears a bike could have
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so you are as always right after MV they stopped racing they didn't win much.
perhaps we could continue the argument when Yamaha achieves the same level of success as MV Agusta aye. How many years would that be 20-30.

That lack of success MV had between 76 and 80 is a bit irrelevant considering even Honda couldn't turn the NR into a bike that would beat the two strokes.