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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    With poolicks like Jim Tuckerman still running the show nothing surprises me.
    I understand he had quite "discussion" with someone at the track which got a bit heated regarding some rules for a Junior class
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Also apparently MNZ officials told them they had 15 minutes to restart the race or the GP would be dropped and not return!!
    So naturally they decided to send them all out and clear up the paper work later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I knew someone would say this eventually. And you're wrong.

    The decision is that of the dude running the event on the day. If someone wants to protest it, more power to them. It wont do them any good though.
    You can't run a Nationals round without the event being sanctioned by MNZ and therefore run under their rules. There weren't any supplementary rules that cover this situation so the rules as written in the MNZ Rule Book apply. If they were not applied correctly the Disputes Procedures are there to sort it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Can no one remember the fuckin bullshit at Wanganui when Bernards boys and Stroud didn't qualify, then got put on the front row in front of the people who did? MNZ didn't give a fuck since it was after the fact, and nothing could be done.
    That was a complete and utter fuck up mate, no denying that. The only possible justification for that is the race would've been diminished by excluding those riders. But that's absolutely no reason for starting them from the front. Competitors are allowed to take part at the discretion of the Course Steward, but there's absolutely no way they should've started from the front of the grid. That's utter bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles08 View Post
    it sounded awfully like his R1 to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental Trousers View Post
    That was a complete and utter fuck up mate, no denying that. The only possible justification for that is the race would've been diminished by excluding those riders. But that's absolutely no reason for starting them from the front. Competitors are allowed to take part at the discretion of the Course Steward, but there's absolutely no way they should've started from the front of the grid. That's utter bullshit.
    They wouldn't have been excluded they would have started off the rear as Jim Tuckerman said would happen at the riders briefing when the question was asked
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    WRONG...it does not need a comma as the meaning is quite clear. Stroud was entitled to restart under appeal. Whether the appeal is upheld is another matter.

    Don't quote street circuit precedents as we have already agreed on here that they are entertainment.....and MNZ couldn't give a damm about the results of them because they don't represent an MNZ organised Championship.
    The rule is quite clear, your right about that. The rest is fuckin dribble though.

    If the rule is clear, why should the rest of the field be impaired by his presence when it shouldn't have been?

    Streets are an MNZ sanctioned event, more to the point, competitors are racing for cash fuckin money! They could find themselves in a power of shit if they aren't upholding their own rules when money is on the line. If they are inconsistent, they are a sham!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Hey mate! How'd you do?
    I didn't crash...went considerably slower than most of the field yet still beat my PB by over 1.5 seconds with a 1:37 flat. Tough field this year mate! Currently sitting on 12th equal with Karl Morgan (mainly due to not falling off more than anything). Need to find some speed somewhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Streets are an MNZ sanctioned event, more to the point, competitors are racing for cash fuckin money! They could find themselves in a power of shit if they aren't upholding their own rules when money is on the line. If they are inconsistent, they are a sham!
    You do realise they do have street racing where cash isn't on the line?

    There is street racing other than Wanganui and Paeroa, better events than Wanganui to
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    You do realise they do have street racing where cash isn't on the line?

    There is street racing other than Wanganui and Paeroa, better events than Wanganui to
    I hadn't really thought about it. But no, I wasn't aware that not all street meets gave cash away.

    Doesn't detract from what I'm saying though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    The rule is quite clear, your right about that. The rest is fuckin dribble though.
    If the rule is clear, why should the rest of the field be impaired by his presence when it shouldn't have been?

    From what i hear, he tried his best to get out of the way of the rest of the field......well clear.

    Have you a personal interest in this ? Sounds like you've got some angst stored up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Have you a personal interest in this ? Sounds like you've got some angst stored up.
    No he's just a grumpy cunt, he's practicing for when he gets to your age
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    No he's just a grumpy cunt, he's practicing for when he gets to your age
    When he gets to my age, he'll know how MNZ rules work and how to manipulate them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    he'll know how MNZ rules work
    Doesn't really appear that they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post

    From what i hear, he tried his best to get out of the way of the rest of the field......well clear.

    Have you a personal interest in this ? Sounds like you've got some angst stored up.
    One of the most amazing rides ever, but it shouldn't have happened. If the steward had a copy of the rules on hand he could have looked them up quickly, and sent Stroud back to his pit.

    It is unfair for the rest of the racers to let him back out, considering he is TWO laps down on the leader.

    I race from time to time, so I'd prefer the figurative playing field to be level is all. I have nothing against Stroudy personally, I don't even know the guy. My only vested interest is a good mate, who is a front runner in the class. Should Stroud get points for a race he shouldn't have been in, my mate loses out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    They wouldn't have been excluded they would have started off the rear as Jim Tuckerman said would happen at the riders briefing when the question was asked
    As I stated competing is at the discretion of the Course Steward mate. That means he can allow anyone to compete even if they clearly didn't qualify, but they should be started from the back of the grid.
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