Chance of a lifetime: YOU can decide on the message that will unite all bikers

[joan of arc]

Have to agree that it would be hard to find a unifying message because we ride for different reasons. Is like asking us to unanimously choose the best bike!

Said that, I reckon that if we all wore day glow until we earned the right not stand out like a belisha beacon (for those of you too young to know, is the bright circles on top of the poles at ped crossings) then most would ride with the aim of getting to black. Reckon that it would soon improve riding stats. "Earning" this right would be the tricky thing to categorise. Getting a speeding ticket - nah shouldn't count as a mark against black. Hell everyone on a bike speeds. Means that you guys that have ridden thousands of km without any bother at all would be grandfathered in as black riders. The rest of us (yep me included) would be ridin' in bright til we had done the miles safely to prove that we deserve black

[NONONO]

Sorry, but I don't understand which part of this is difficult.
I ride legally.
I have a registered motorcycle that has a WOF. I have a license to ride.
That is enough in my opinion.
The fact that I also have full insurance (that is not mandatory), a clean license and a 30 odd year history of not falling off, not causing mayhem (well 20 years of that one) and not, as some would have it, bleeding the country dry via ACC claims (not a one) is neither here nor there.
I comply with all current legislation.
I firmly believe that we have allowed the legislation to creep up on us, helmets, lights on and the ACC debacle. However, if we are going to make a stand it needs to be about line in the sand stuff.
No more legislation, for any reason. Enough is enough.
No more accepting that we are scape goats and cash cows.
IF legislation is passed it needs to be across the board, all road users should comply.
So, I will ride a day glo bike, when all vehicles are day glo.
I will accept ongoing training and stiffer tests, when all vehicles are subject to the same rules.
I object to raised ACC levies based on lies and opportunistic National Party ideology.
Frankly I would hope and pray, and support any action that makes it more likely, that ACC returns to Woodhouse principles. But I know it's not likely.
Simple message;
Enough is enough, no further.

[Brian d marge]

Simple message;
Enough is enough, no further.

I think thats the message right there

Cuts across everyone , oldies , car drivers , me you .


Stephen

[avgas]

I ride a motorcycle. I drive a car. I ride a bicycle. I'm a pedestrian. I use the road in/on the vehicle of my choice at any given time. I can die using any form of transportation. I have the accident. Charge me once and then leave my pocket the fuck alone.

Simple message;
Enough is enough, no further.

How about:

"Fuck you, I'm not paying anymore"

Simple, clear........and I think the average biker won't mind yelling it.
But it of course requires every biker to grow a pair and not pay rego anymore......which is what I have said from day one.

But either way I win. Either people grow a pair and stop paying, or don't and only the real bikers are left to ride.

[Katman]

Simple message;
Enough is enough, no further.

Well I loled.

[NONONO]

You loled did you?
did you like it?
loled....Hmmmmm...you are how old?

[Katman]

You loled did you?
did you like it?
loled....Hmmmmm...you are how old?

You seem to think the powers that be give a fuck about you.

How old are you?

[NONONO]

loled

[jafar]

But it of course requires every biker to grow a pair and not pay rego anymore......which is what I have said from day one.

But either way I win. Either people grow a pair and stop paying, or don't and only the real bikers are left to ride.

So those of us that pay our rego's & ride are not real bikers ?

Only those that flout the system & ride with no rego risking a $200 fine & 15 demerit points are the real bikers???? Sorry but I can't see a win in there for you "real bikers" @ all.

[mashman]

How about:

"Fuck you, I'm not paying anymore"

Simple, clear........and I think the average biker won't mind yelling it.
But it of course requires every biker to grow a pair and not pay rego anymore......which is what I have said from day one.

But either way I win. Either people grow a pair and stop paying, or don't and only the real bikers are left to ride.

I don't agree with not paying. It gives them the mandate to rise the levies further and I have a box of beer riding on that not happening. It also provides less $$$ to the communal coffer... so that's why my pair aren't growing.

Do you pay ACC on any vehicle you own?

[Ronin]

Airships have never comprised the entry level transport medium for most South East Asian countries.

Kites in a strong wind on the other hand...

[Ocean1]

And they've always been about ACC...

I asked myself when ACC was first introduced; "How long will it be until they decide that because they're paying the bills they've got the right to dictate how we live."

There's been a slow but steady erosion, constrained by some lingering political recognition that it is, in fact our lives, our right, and that ACC was explicitly designed to be proof against such inteferance. Until last year. They finally found a group small enough and diverse enough to be an easy target.

And now I can answer the question. 38 years.

And lets face it, they were right about how easy it'd be.

The future was always fucked for motorcycles

Possibly. We're obviously easy enough to roll for an extra few hundred a year, I wonder if it'll be as easy to park us up completely.

[Katman]

Possibly. We're obviously easy enough to roll for an extra few hundred a year, I wonder if it'll be as easy to park us up completely.

Are you game enough to risk finding out?

[scumdog]

So those of us that pay our rego's & ride are not real bikers ?

Only those that flout the system & ride with no rego risking a $200 fine & 15 demerit points are the real bikers???? Sorry but I can't see a win in there for you "real bikers" @ all.

Ah, it's $100....

[avgas]

I don't agree with not paying. It gives them the mandate to rise the levies further and I have a box of beer riding on that not happening. It also provides less $$$ to the communal coffer... so that's why my pair aren't growing.
Do you pay ACC on any vehicle you own?

Fair calls. But to put it blankly.
We complained - nothing changed.
We protested - nothing happened.
We tried to show that we are people too, acted all nice like - nothing happened.

Apart from us stopping the flow of money. Or riots on the streets. We have nothing. Change of government won't fix this - we simply don't have the numbers.
So pay or not. Bend over