Is it too much to move from a 250 to 1000 right after getting fulls?

[MaxCannon]

If you are set on a 1000 then get a GSXR1000 with the switchable maps and ride it on the low power setting.
There are plenty of people have been riding for years that can't handle their 1000cc bikes. You'll see the results on Trademe with the damaged bike auctions.

[ducatilover]

A 600 will excite you for about 2 weeks

Stop riding it in a straight line then

[Old Steve]

Depends how much you've ridden your GT250R. If you've only dawdled around on it, go the 600 way. If you've got 30,000 km on it, maybe you're ready for the 1000.

I'd go to the smaller capacity bike myself.

[SMOKEU]

OP - next up you should start a thread asking "how long is a piece of string?" There are HUGE differences in power and torque outputs of various different bikes which have the same, or similar engine displacement. Just compare the specs of a Hayabusa vs a Harley of a similar engine size. A high performance 600cc bike will have a lot more power than a lazy litre bike. A late model GSX1400 has less power than the same year GSXR600, just to give you an example. Both are straight 4 engines from the same manufacturer as well.

[Hitcher]

The thing I enjoyed most when moving from a 250 (an FZX250 Zeal) to a bigger bike (a ZRX1200R) was the superior brakes. And the handling. The brakes, the handling and the throttle response. The brakes, the handling, the throttle response and the fuel economy. The brakes, handling, throttle response, fuel economy and riding position...

Yes, bigger bikes go whoosh, but only if the rider twists the whoosh control aggressively. I've ridden an R1, a GSX-R1000 and a ZX10. Yes, gentle readers, they're all sprots bikes that can deliver shitloads of horsepower in nanoseconds, if asked, but they're also quite docile and well behaved round-town nerdlers. They are also excrutiatingly uncomfortable things to ride, until one's adrenalin levels rise to a point where the pounding pulsations from one's bleeding piles is subdued.

[GrayWolf]

just wondering about that for a while would it be a good idea to stop on a 600 before moving to 1000?

A 600 will excite you for about 2 weeks, If I could do it over I would have gone straight to the 1000. You pay big money for a nice 600, you pay more big money to extract minimal amounts of extra power out of it, then you have a ride on a 1000 that just smokes the shit out of your pride and joy, that is now worth half of what you originally paid for it, minus the mods. The bike only goes as fast as you tell it to. Just nut up and get a 1000.

it's all been said here already, my 2c worth? As anyone of my age group would tell you, most of us 'graduated' from Road Rash Acadamy for learning our biking skills. Many of us went from a 250 to 900/1000cc 'superbikes' Some like myself stopped partway with a couple of Triumph's and a 'mere' 500 H1 In comparison although the modern 250 is a little faster on average that the fast ones we rode as learners, a sprot 600cc will outstrip for both acceleration and top end those 1000cc superbikes of our younger years. Really anyone who says they were bored with a 600 in 2 weeks? Must be called either Valantino Rossi, Mike Hailwood, Barry Sheen, Kenny Roberts...(two of these are now deceased and I dont see the other two's names in kiwibiker) or, they are so overconfident in their own ability as a rider, I'd be careful of the advice given (unless the 600/650 was a single banger adventure bike or similar). Only you know your skill level, confidence and ability on the road, let that be the guide for your step up rather than Ego. Similar to another poster in this thread, i've just dropped about 50bhp in power, and dont miss it at all.

[dangerous]

it's all been... and dont miss it at all.

fark man a 250-9/1000 shit I was 80,125,250,500,750,turbo,1100 etc... back to a 11 but at 83hp might aswell be a 250 again... and ya know what? no 'road rash' so there is something to be said about taking ya time, BUT it seems these days its accepted that you crash, Im fucked if I understand that shit

[axdout]

Interesting how people come to the conclusion from my post that I think my riding is comparable to rossi and that I am over confident. I am simply saying that for ME the excitement that I experienced when I first got on my R6 (comparing to a 250) quickly just became another bike in the garage. My 1000 however, lifts the wheel without trying and when your giving it shit you feel it trying to throw you off the back. I find this to be exciting and not boring( and it's been 6 months). I would rather have payed an extra 3k for that feeling everytime I ride the first time around. But thats just me I like to get value for money.

Man just take a 600 and a 1000 out and hammer them both and see which one puts a bigger smile on your face.

(Please do not interpret this post as me to be gloating about my superior motorcycling skills, Iv'e never even come close to getting my knee down, or even claimed to be awsum, or even been to a track day. I just find getting a bit of a rush in my daily commute makes going to work a little less shitty.

[Katman]

Interesting how people come to the conclusion from my post that I think my riding is comparable to rossi and that I am over confident. I am simply saying that for ME the excitement that I experienced when I first got on my R6 (comparing to a 250) quickly just became another bike in the garage. My 1000 however, lifts the wheel without trying and when your giving it shit you feel it trying to throw you off the back. I find this to be exciting and not boring( and it's been 6 months). I would rather have payed an extra 3k for that feeling everytime I ride the first time around. But thats just me I like to get value for money.

Man just take a 600 and a 1000 out and hammer them both and see which one puts a bigger smile on your face.

(Please do not interpret this post as me to be gloating about my superior motorcycling skills, Iv'e never even come close to getting my knee down, or even claimed to be awsum, or even been to a track day. I just find getting a bit of a rush in my daily commute makes going to work a little less shitty.

Fuckin' retard.

[superman]

Interesting how people come to the conclusion from my post that I think my riding is comparable to rossi and that I am over confident. I am simply saying that for ME the excitement that I experienced when I first got on my R6 (comparing to a 250) quickly just became another bike in the garage. My 1000 however, lifts the wheel without trying and when your giving it shit you feel it trying to throw you off the back. I find this to be exciting and not boring( and it's been 6 months). I would rather have payed an extra 3k for that feeling everytime I ride the first time around. But thats just me I like to get value for money.

Man just take a 600 and a 1000 out and hammer them both and see which one puts a bigger smile on your face.

(Please do not interpret this post as me to be gloating about my superior motorcycling skills, Iv'e never even come close to getting my knee down, or even claimed to be awsum, or even been to a track day. I just find getting a bit of a rush in my daily commute makes going to work a little less shitty.

[jrandom]

(Please do not interpret this post as me to be gloating about my superior motorcycling skills, Iv'e never even come close to getting my knee down, or even claimed to be awsum, or even been to a track day. I just find getting a bit of a rush in my daily commute makes going to work a little less shitty.

You're going to get hurt.

[Jantar]

Interesting how people come to the conclusion from my post that I think my riding is comparable to rossi and that I am over confident. I am simply saying that for ME the excitement that I experienced when I first got on my R6 (comparing to a 250) quickly just became another bike in the garage. My 1000 however, lifts the wheel without trying and when your giving it shit you feel it trying to throw you off the back. I find this to be exciting and not boring( and it's been 6 months). I would rather have payed an extra 3k for that feeling everytime I ride the first time around. But thats just me I like to get value for money.

Man just take a 600 and a 1000 out and hammer them both and see which one puts a bigger smile on your face.

(Please do not interpret this post as me to be gloating about my superior motorcycling skills, Iv'e never even come close to getting my knee down, or even claimed to be awsum, or even been to a track day. I just find getting a bit of a rush in my daily commute makes going to work a little less shitty.

Fuckin' retard.

i wouldn't have used quite the same wording as Katman, but I also couldn't express my feelings any better.

[DEATH_INC.]

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This deserves to be post of the year!

[neels]

I went from a 250 to an old 600, rode that until I was thrashing it as hard as the 250, and happy riding with people on bigger and newer bikes.

Now I'm on a 80hp v-twin, which I know would be a lot faster with someone else on it, but I'm comfortable giving it a handful of anything without being scared shitless of what it might do. I had a FZR1000 on loan for a while, and the power delivery/riding position/handling made me nervous, which made riding a lot less fun than thrashing the 600.

Extending yourself incrementally is a lot safer option than taking a big step, then realising the hard way it was a step too far....

[DEATH_INC.]

The simple fact is any of the sprot thou's are way too fast for the road, at least if you have any idea how to make them go properly. How many fresh riders have any idea how to land a 160k plus wheelie when these things stand up at that speed (the 10 does it all the time)??? Or how to stop a highside at these speeds because you've screwed on a bit much throttle in a lower gear than you thought you were in? Or how to take a corner 50kph faster than you thought you'd be going when you got there?
You may say that it only goes as fast as you turn the right handle, but mistakes happen, more so with inexperienced riders. Sport thous are very unforgiving.
As it is with enough rpm even a newer 600 sprot bike is stupidly fast. You just have a BIT more margin for error.

Anyone who can beat me around a track or on the road can argue this with me. There are a few too, but I think most will agree.

You will gain way more skill working your way up, rather than jumping straight on to something that scares your pants off you when ya ride it.

That's my opinion anyway, but us old fella's don't know shit anyhow eh?