Spoken like a user. You can get the same cancers from smoking dope as cigarettes. A well documented side effect is paranoia. Only users defend it as "harmless".Originally Posted by gatch
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Spoken like a user. You can get the same cancers from smoking dope as cigarettes. A well documented side effect is paranoia. Only users defend it as "harmless".
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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SH1 rider
awh come on Edbear, didn't you notice the cunning hair splitting in his post. He soooooo funny.
"Are the active ingredients carcinogens", well neither is nicotine, it is the other shit that
comes with it.
"Does it kill people", neither do cigarettes, it is the cancer etc they cause that kills them.
Now this one you could have a whole thread about;
"Does it cause depression or other mental illness in people who are not prone to these conditions"
Imagine the argument regarding and defining prone to the condition and did the cannabis make them prone etc. Sorry have seen too much evidence, not court of law proven though, that heavy user will get depression to the point were some will kill themselves.
There is an argument that it was so heavily outlawed because the cotton industry at the time was worried about hemp as a fabric. Unlike more toxic drug, opium for example, it was not even allowed to be investigated as having possible medical application and this is where things went too far.
Hardcore Biker
are you guys talking about me again???
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Hardcore Biker
All of the above apply but I can also add that after a race and while the adrenalin is still coursing through the veins the rush is something else...that's my favourite time to have a cigarette.
But I know what Edbear is getting at and my fitness now is not great as before I just got through on stamina and thats deserting me even more these days, somethings gotta give soon.
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Most herbs have value in some way and usually in health or medicine. Cannabis seems to have medical uses that are now being investigated.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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Of course not...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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You make a very good point. Ask any health professional or sports/fitness instructor and you know the advice you will get.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Trying to be a good dog
Thats why it should be eaten and in tinctures, as it was sold in pharmacy's for 100's of years... Weed is actually a anti-cancer treatment Ed, do some reading instead of quoting Mildred from church
Ed, you talk about 'research' all the time, yet quote wives tales and continue half truths and lies that suit your worldview and political/social/religious bias
At this stage cannabis looks a lot less harmful that some of the moralistic emotional blackmail that various financial interest groups bandy about, harming NZ youth with propaganda over facts!! Recirculating untruths and propaganda for your status within their pack, (like the guys they hire to cheer the speaker and turn the masses.....)
all the while harming young NZers with confounding statements that are contrary to their own real life experiences and that of the wider public
all the while the kids have to listen to lying officials, or lying anti prohibitionists..... and are caught in the middle of a money go round, and corporate battle for the recreational dollar of NZ youf
Yes, everyone including me can be a dumb fucker quoting garbage from their ethnocentric gang leaders asshole. I could quote rubbish from the cannabis culture movement handbook, just like you fire off your prohibitionist handbook rubbish, and at the end of the day we are both wrong and both harming the young people of NZ
Its depressing when you think about it. meh
Your leaders have a big stage, and many ardent and earnest followers with contacts...........bit like the destiny church eh? political clout......even on TV, in papers, doesnt make it any less garbage though, prolly makes it more harmful rubbish tho due to its prevalence and financial interests giving it legitimacy
Amen to all the fucking parrot monkeys on both sides of the fence.
Your mainstream rhetoric and the alternative rhetoric of the cannabis culture movement........ is a language of financial interests, and fuck the children. SAD
Churches are monuments to self importance
Trying to be a good dog
Last night I sat at a table where the 15 or so cannabis users put away rather large quantities of high grade cannabis for 4-5 hours on end!
I commented on how angry and irritable I had been, since I had not smoked for 3 days. I said
'well I suppose if I wasn't addicted to weed I would just have a junk food addiction, smoke tobacco and harm my self proportionally more than with cannabis, thereby costing the taxpayer and myself much more, financially and socially'
reply from everyone: so your assuming cannabis is addictive???
meh, 95% of everyone is full of shit!!
why else would I have withdrawal rage??
and this is from A+ student double degree dick brains
Churches are monuments to self importance
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Thats why it should be eaten and in tinctures, as it was sold in pharmacy's for 100's of years... Weed is actually a anti-cancer treatment Ed, do some reading instead of quoting Mildred from church
Ed, you talk about 'research' all the time, yet quote wives tales and continue half truths and lies that suit your worldview and political/social/religious bias
At this stage cannabis looks a lot less harmful that some of the moralistic emotional blackmail that various financial interest groups bandy about, harming NZ youth with propaganda over facts!! Recirculating untruths and propaganda for your status within their pack, (like the guys they hire to cheer the speaker and turn the masses.....)
all the while harming young NZers with confounding statements that are contrary to their own real life experiences and that of the wider public
all the while the kids have to listen to lying officials, or lying anti prohibitionists
Yes, everyone including me can be a dumb fucker quoting garbage from their ethnocentric gang leaders asshole. I could quote rubbish from the cannabis culture movement handbook, just like you fire off your prohibitionist handbook rubbish, and at the end of the day we are both wrong and both harming the young people of NZ
Its depressing when you think about it. meh
Your leaders have a big stage, and many ardent and earnest followers with contacts...........bit like the destiny church eh? political clout......even on TV, in papers, doesnt make it any less garbage though, prolly makes it more harmful rubbish tho due to its prevalence and financial interests giving it legitimacy
Amen to all the fucking parrot monkeys on both sides of the fence.
Your mainstream rhetoric and the alternative rhetoric of the cannabis culture movement........ is a language of financial interests, and fuck the children. SADCareful, you're beginning to sound paranoid..
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Trying to be a good dog
I expected such a clever responseCareful, you're beginning to sound paranoid..
I reached out to you to try and connect in truth and honesty, and you push us back in our respective dishonest rhetoric corners.
nice one Ed
continue as you are then
Churches are monuments to self importance
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You need to read all I post, not pick and choose out of context. Nothing I have posted is lies or propaganda and nothing from anywhere but established medical documentation and research. You attack me with prejudice and are factually incorrect which does your argument no good.
You come across as angry and defensive which serves merely to confirm you are addicted to the effects of dope without care for the known harmful side effects. You do not use it for medical reasons so to argue any positive benefits is a moot point and does not apply to you.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Trying to be a good dog
Whatever Ed
I remember years of dog with a bone, holy roller arguments you have on KB
As you were good man, I try to learn by my mistakes and accidents, I tried putting god in my pocket, but she kept on tickling my balls when I opened my gob
Mysterious ways are beyond my scope of comprehension, so I deter to your wisdom
Please urinate on this spot after me, but please consider the youth of NZ's real welfare next time you piss on something
Churches are monuments to self importance
Aio ki te Aorangi
Is smoking the only thing that causes mouth/throat cancer? Does emphasyma and heart failure only occur in those that smoke? Should women who have a history of breast cancer in the family remove their breasts just in case? I'm not excusing smoking, and whilst I will accept your russian roulette argument, I won't accept your direct consequence argument because it is not a fact that smoking is 100% responsible for ANY cancer or disease. I have no doubt that it is a contributing factor to damaging a persons health and that there is a higher probability that a person will contract a smoking attributed (not related) disease, but it isn't the only thing that damages a persons health and people who don't smoke die of exactly the same diseases as those who do smoke. Russian Roulette at best... I only started smoking to help with my gambling habit...
Would you class that as denial?
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Loud and Uncouth
Smoking - it's your choice.
And when I say why? - you will say why not.
Indeed, if you've got nothing better to do with $50,000 and more in your lifetime and don't give a shit about health issues then go for it.
Me? - I'll just keep spending my money on gas-guzzlers and stuff like that
(When I was 15 I looked at the price on a packet of cigarettes and thought "Crap, that's a gallon of petrol"
Now I'm laughing even more 'cos a packet of 20 costs way more than a gallon of gas.
And $50,000 spent on tobacco will get you nowhere and give you nothing tangible to show for it...unless you have a fettish for old cigarette butts and empty Bic-Flics
But hey, what do I know - I don't smoke.
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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