It's soooooo unfair (sniffle)

[oneofsix]

IIRC he was an early shareholder (and basically funded it thru the rough patch): printed $45Mill or something out of it. A couple of the staff walked with a few mill each.

edited post #38 with the Heralds comments. Seems he gave his profit away.

[James Deuce]

Ohh FFS, we're not allowed to call all cops cunts, despite evidence to the contrary, so you can't call all of us losers based on that kind of sample. Found my stolen bike yet? No, of course not. Lost property isn't a Police matter any more.

Just in case you're feeling picked on, I don't like anyone.

Just so we're clear.

[Scuba_Steve]

You're conveniently overlooking the very real possibility of TPTB saying "the ACC levy intake has dropped dramatically so to compensate for that we are going to need to increase the levy again just as dramatically".

not overlooking just acknowledging that even if everyone paid they'd still say "we need more money so we're upping the cost"
Remember the "deficit" to justify this price rise? & the profit they announced afterwards which was strangely similar to the profit from the year before & the figures shown by the protest.

[superman]

The only way to check a riders D/L is to stop and confirm the riders ID first, then do the check. It's wrong to assume that the registered person (new term in law, BTW) is riding.

My friend has a registered bike with no motorcycle license.

It's funny how often cops pull his mate over on it and ask why the 'registered person' owns a road bike with no license

[HenryDorsetCase]

TBH that was the thing that really pissed me off about the ACC levy/rego rise: not that I couldnt afford it, I can, but the blatant fucking lies used to "justify" it. Plus that whisky nosed cunt Nick Smith. Fuck him too. Yes, it's personal.

[Katman]

not overlooking just acknowledging that even if everyone paid they'd still say "we need more money so we're upping the cost"
Remember the "deficit" to justify this price rise? & the profit they announced afterwards which was strangely similar to the profit from the year before & the figures shown by the protest.

The difference being that you are giving them complete justification for a further increase that the general public (once ACC produce figures for the decrease in levy intake) will fully support.

[superman]

Ohh FFS, we're not allowed to call all cops cunts, despite evidence to the contrary, so you can't call all of us losers based on that kind of sample. Found my stolen bike yet? No, of course not. Lost property isn't a Police matter any more.

Just in case you're feeling picked on, I don't like anyone.

Just so we're clear.

+1, being publicly assaulted and having items forcibly stolen off you by youth isn't a Police matter any more either. It's just 'life'.

Well I guess I should be nice and say... the sample of Police I have come across...

[bogan]

Ohh FFS, we're not allowed to call all cops cunts, despite evidence to the contrary, so you can't call all of us losers based on that kind of sample. Found my stolen bike yet? No, of course not. Lost property isn't a Police matter any more.

Just in case you're feeling picked on, I don't like anyone.

Just so we're clear.

Lazy pricks haven't found my laptop yet either, I'm beginning to think the guy who's sole job it is to find said laptop, is just sitting on his fat arse eating donuts or something.

[HenryDorsetCase]

+1, being publicly assaulted and having items forcibly stolen off you by youth isn't a Police matter any more either. It's just 'life'.

but as soon as you beat them to a bloody pulp, or kill them, THEN they fucking show up. Oh yeah, they're all over that. Just one little stabby stab and they're all like "Oh no, son, you can't be doing that!" I mean really.

[Katman]

TBH that was the thing that really pissed me off about the ACC levy/rego rise: not that I couldnt afford it, I can, but the blatant fucking lies used to "justify" it.

Unfortunately we never adequately discredited those "lies" to the general public. That is why we never got their widespread support.

[superman]

but as soon as you beat them to a bloody pulp, or kill them, THEN they fucking show up. Oh yeah, they're all over that. Just one little stabby stab and they're all like "Oh no, son, you can't be doing that!" I mean really.

As soon as I got to my car I tried finding the little bastards with a vacuum cleaner pipe in hand, funny how much rage boils over you when something like that happens. No doubt I would have been seen as a 'risk to public safety' had I found 'em and 'had my way'

[bogan]

Unfortunately we never adequately discredited those "lies" to the general public. That is why we never got their widespread support.

At the risk of seriousness. We had adequate stats and information to discredit the lies, but the publics preconceived notion about how smelly and impolite we are meant most didn't listen. We all try and air out the smell as much as possible I like to think, but a bit more politeness (stupidly fucking loud bike owners I'm looking at you here) never hurts. Its pretty hard to think how much of an ass a biker is when he just picked up your keys that fell out while you were cycling, or helped out when you were having engine trouble or a flat tyre on the road side.

[willytheekid]

Yeah, my SMART device is smarter than me. Thing is, it can do stuff I can't, but it can't attend crashes, sudden deaths, domestics, shoplifters, yaadee yaadee yaadee.

Sack the Popos, employ lots more machines, then call it the MoT.

...Oh god noooo!!

Please don't!!, you have no idea how hard it was for our design teams to set up the secure channels and network security & routes etc for these bloody things!



I liked it better when me and mike at welly dipatch sat around all night on the phone and bitched about the old frax circuits shitting themselfs every 5mins ...I miss mike ...but i certainly don't miss looking after your guys new toys and ancient network routes etc (I look after more "important" customers now )

Enjoy the toys!...smart they maybe...but stable?...we both know the answer to that! (yeah yeah...were working on it!!...still)

[avgas]

Unfortunately we never adequately discredited those "lies" to the general public. That is why we never got their widespread support.

I dunno, some guys did a pretty good job.
Problem we face is who is going to believe some snivelly nosed biker who thinks ACC is wrong.......when their "representives" go out and say everything is fine a dandy?

[sleemanj]

In the interest of pure curiosity rastus, what is this "SMART" device you speak of?

Does it do photo recognition of number plates, so your colleague just point it vaguely in the direction of the plate as the legal rider passes by, or do they punch the numbers in?

Is it being applied unilaterally to all vehicles or just motorcycles?

And if it's saying that more than 50% of the subjects have issues of legality, are more than 50% of the subjects actually getting infringement notices? I'd have thought there'd be a thread here with at least the desired 50 pages of people complaining about getting pinged if that was the case.