Give Way rule date changed

[_Shrek_]

nothing like pissing off the same generation twice in one life time it only took 35 years to relise they had cocked up or woke up to the fact

[nerrrd]

Regarding the supermarket carpark, I'm pretty sure that a pedestrian DOES have the right of way on a driveway crossing a footpath ie at the entrance to the carpark.

Not sure if you were talking about that or within the carpark itself...obviously any pedestrian would be wise to make sure they don't step out in front of a car regardless of the rules (a bit like motorcyclists.)

They should be running ads about the coming give way rule change already IMHO, although I guess people might start applying the new rule too soon, which would just add to the overall confusion.

[SMOKEU]

I've driven in South Africa before, and apparently whoever gets to the stop sign first, has the right of way.

[Gremlin]

Regarding the supermarket carpark, I'm pretty sure that a pedestrian DOES have the right of way on a driveway crossing a footpath ie at the entrance to the carpark.

They should be running ads about the coming give way rule change already IMHO, although I guess people might start applying the new rule too soon, which would just add to the overall confusion.

Yep, the link in the first post details that pedestrians/cyclists still have right of way on a footpath across the driveway.

And yes, they are not running the ads yet because they might start applying the new rules too soon. NZTA even tries to stress how important it is for everyone to switch at the same time.

I kinda liked USA's 4 way stops. It cycles around, each side getting a turn. Everyone is quite corteous, checking for others. Only gets a bit annoying when there is a lot of traffic piling into one.

[dangerous]

Being one that had long been riding when the current rules came in during 1977 I thought they were incredulous then and have been wishing for a change back ever since. This will be a big improvement.

as for me... I dont get it, ok standadising world wire BUT... now you will have to sit with your arse in the firing line as cars, trucks etc come roreing up behind you, with the dosy kiwi driver a rear end colision is imenent... mean while the car tucked nicely to the curb out of the way gets to go

[cheshirecat]

as for me... I dont get it, ok standadising world wire BUT... now you will have to sit with your arse in the firing line as cars, trucks etc come roreing up behind you, with the dosy kiwi driver a rear end colision is imenent... mean while the car tucked nicely to the curb out of the way gets to go

They do that anyway.

[jim g]

I'm looking forward to the change in some ways, most new laws stop us from thinking, all road users will have to wake up for a change, start thinking, there will be more interaction, some bad but all enlighting, it may even bring motorists closer together,sorry, l didn't mean literally, we'll have to work together, l like that. Ok, l'm some sort of a romanticist. Anyway, what should happen at the same time as the law change is that if you are turning left and it is red once you have stopped you should be able to proceed at your own call, even if still red. This will cut down congestion, cut down pollution, save fuel BUT MOST OF ALL give motorists some responsibiliy, they will in fact have to interact with other motorists. They do this in other countries and l confess l do it here, not so much now however, few too many demerits.


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[Ollie.T]

Anyway, what should happen at the same time as the law change is that if you are turning left and it is red once you have stopped you should be able to proceed at your own call, even if still red. This will cut down congestion, cut down pollution, save fuel BUT MOST OF ALL give motorists some responsibiliy, they will in fact have to interact with other motorists. They do this in other countries and l confess l do it here, not so much now however, few too many demerits.

Sounds nice, but I reckon it would lead to a whole lots SMIDSYs - I would always be paranoid approaching green lights that someone is going to pull out on me.

[jim g]

Well thats sort of what l mean,you will have to stay awake, a traffic light won't necessarily stop you from having an accident, you have to do that yourself. l like the idea of all road users having to be more aware of what they are doing than what is expected of them at present. I believe there is a town in Europe that they removed all traffic lights and other stuff and the accident rate more or less stopped, road users had to think and interact, as l said, maybe l'm a dreamer.

[slofox]

I kinda liked USA's 4 way stops. It cycles around, each side getting a turn. Everyone is quite courteous, checking for others. Only gets a bit annoying when there is a lot of traffic piling into one.

Which is why it wouldn't work in EnZed, eh!

[scumdog]

as for me... I dont get it, ok standadising world wire BUT... now you will have to sit with your arse in the firing line as cars, trucks etc come roreing up behind you, with the dosy kiwi driver a rear end colision is imenent... mean while the car tucked nicely to the curb out of the way gets to go

Yee-ferkin'-ha, exactly what I've been trying to tell a lot of you. (Not quite in the same language though...)

And the benefit of the 'new' law will be????

[FJRider]

And the benefit of the 'new' law will be????

Fewer of our overseas "guests" ... bringing in lots of "overseas $$$" will get it wrong ...

(They'll STILL drive on the WRONG side of the road though)

[superman]

Yee-ferkin'-ha, exactly what I've been trying to tell a lot of you. (Not quite in the same language though...)

And the benefit of the 'new' law will be????

If you have people behind you (and scared), if you aren't going to be able to turn right due to oncoming vehicles isn't the convention to pull over to the left until traffic has passed and then turn right? Or is it more logical to hold up straight through traffic before turning right down a side road?

[scumdog]

If you have people behind you (and scared), if you aren't going to be able to turn right due to oncoming vehicles isn't the convention to pull over to the left until traffic has passed and then turn right? Or is it more logical to hold up straight through traffic before turning right down a side road?

Not in town (that I've noticed) and if you did pull over to the left it would now mean you have TWO lanes to cross when you wanted to make a left turn.

Most places I've seen the straight through traffic just loops around any traffic in the centre waiting to turn right HOWEVER I know of at least one situation whered if you have a slew of people queing up on a painted island, all waiting to turn right they will back up to where the flow will likely stop.

At present the left-turners have plenty of room to move to the left out of the traffic flow.

[MSTRS:Me]

Yee-ferkin'-ha, exactly what I've been trying to tell a lot of you. (Not quite in the same language though...)

And the benefit of the 'new' law will be????

Eggsakery.
Changing it to 'the same as the rest of the world' is bullshit. The rest of the world should change to what we still have.
The whole thing is covered by "If your driver's door (right leg) can be hit - YOU give way". No having to think whether it's you or that other guy.
Although there is something to be said for 'forcing' drivers to actually think about what they are about to do...or am I dreaming?