Free the weed, dope, cannabis, hooch, Fri 4 Feb, outside Auckland District Courts

[ducatilover]

I can imagine there are all sorts of uses for cannabis... such a shame that it was shelved for sooooo many years because it was bad, just plain old bad. I guess there's no money in something that you can make yourself... let's have some propaganda to fool the rest of the world into believing that it's for the good of society .

[mashman]

Hot Fuzz

bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaaa ... crusty jugglers

[scumdog]

If weed wasn't illegal, then it wouldn't be such a valuable commodity. I'm sure you don't often see people beating up their wife for eating the last piece of cheese from the fridge or eating the last slice of bread. Or maybe you do.

C'mon, stop fighting with yourself (or are you trolling??...hmmmm....).

Alcohol ain't illegal, it doesn't seem to be a 'valuable commodity' (neither is cannabis relatively speaking) but 'people beat up their wife' because (a) She drunk the last of it, (b) forgot to get more (c) didn't get the right sort...yadda...yadda..yadda

[haydes55]

C'mon, stop fighting with yourself (or are you trolling??...hmmmm....).

Alcohol ain't illegal, it doesn't seem to be a 'valuable commodity' (neither is cannabis relatively speaking) but 'people beat up their wife' because (a) She drunk the last of it, (b) forgot to get more (c) didn't get the right sort...yadda...yadda..yadda

(d) Didn't cook the man some eggs

[over5tayer]

Watch this documentary, its very informative and clears up a lot of 'myths' that have been associated to weed use.

[Madness]

At an hour and three-quarters long I'll have to defer until I have sufficient "supplies"

[mashman]

Money driven, politically backed idiocy, pure and simple. Don't believe me, then watch the fuckin video... feck that pushes my buttons!!!!

[haydes55]

Watch this documentary, its very informative and clears up a lot of 'myths' that have been associated to weed use.

Very good indeed! Would of liked to of seen more people who backed the prohibition (in positions of power or information, like a scientist) having their say on the video aswell. Although I agree with decriminalisation, what really baffles me is how people see Marijuana as negative?

Prohibition was lifted before the Vietnam war, the people smoking weed saw injustices in the war and protested, govt. prohibits marijuana to have a reason to arrest protesters and continue the war.

The only study to show brain damage caused by marijuana was conducted over 50 years ago, where they administered such large amounts of smoke, the animals were suffocating to death from lack of oxygen.

A recent study in Wollongong is interesting to read. I'll quote a few things to make you think

The study, conducted by researchers at the University of Wollongong, is the first to show that long-term cannabis use can adversely affect all users, not just those in the high-risk categories such as the young, or those susceptible to mental illness, as previously thought.

Funny that a scientific study will admit in 2008 to being the 1st to prove any adverse affect as a result of smoking marijuana.

This loss of memory could be likened to the damage suffered by patients with mild traumatic brain injury”, Dr Solowij said

Prolonged use of marijuana causes memory loss equivalent to memory loss attained by anyone who has been knocked out at some stage in their life News flash! Marijuana smoking for many years is as harmful as accidentally being knocked out once in your life! Take into account that

structural magnetic resonance imaging on 15 men (average age 39 years) who smoked more than five joints daily for over 10 years

When they say heavy users they mean heavy users. This slight damage to memory (which we all lose regardless of smoking weed or not) is caused by smoking so much weed you would need to be growing your own plants. They are only studying people who are smoking $700 worth of weed every week!

“Although modest use may not lead to significant neurotoxic effects, these results suggest that heavy daily use might indeed be toxic to human brain tissue,” Dr Yücel said.

The Dr. who did the study even admits to not finding any evidence of brain deterioration in modest smokers. Which is propaganda code for, "we did the same test on people who use marijuana as much as the average pot smoker and found no negative effects".

Article found here

[ducatilover]

Funny that a scientific study will admit in 2008 to being the 1st to prove any adverse affect as a result of smoking marijuana.

You have overlooked the part in red.
So your study has admitted to the high risk groups and the dangers, as I have previously pointed out. Typically, this will probably be ignored by all the pro pot smokers.
Are neither sides capable of admitting it can be harmful? Not will or won't be. Good morning brick wall.

"The study, conducted by researchers at the University of Wollongong, is the first to show that long-term cannabis use can adversely affect all users, not just those in the high-risk categories such as the young, or those susceptible to mental illness, as previously thought."

[scissorhands]

Are neither sides capable of admitting it can be harmful? Not will or won't be. Good morning brick wall.

"The study, conducted by researchers at the University of Wollongong, is the first to show that long-term cannabis use can adversely affect all users, not just those in the high-risk categories such as the young, or those susceptible to mental illness, as previously thought."

Okay okay I'll admit it. Cannabis smoking is harmful, as is drinking black tea and sticky buns harmful. Harm is relative, like bike accident carnage.

Many things are not mentioned, my main concern is the loss of potential. But many never fulfil their potential anyway even without weed to make them lazy.

[mashman]

"“Although modest use may not lead to significant neurotoxic effects, these results suggest that heavy daily use might indeed be toxic to human brain tissue,” Dr Yücel said."

Given that the title of the article is "Marijuana can cause brain damage", I would have thought that someone so secure in their conviction would not be using the word "might". I could have told the world this without the need for millions to have been poured into research. There are so many "cans" and "mights" in there that it is hardly conclusive evidence. Did they also measure the intake of alcohol? The foods eaten? The medicines taken? The living conditions of the people, asking if they had had a mild brain trauma in the 10 years they had been walking around? etc... there are so many other things that could have caused the "death" of the brain tissue they're talking about, that it's laughable that anyone would take any of the research seriously.

Now, go fuck yourself if you don't believe that I'm being impartial. The questions listed above are all valid questions and variables to be considered where you are looking for a culprit. If you do not believe that to be the case, then you are not viewing the "evidence" critically, more you are refusing to do so because you have already made your mind up. It's like reading a court transcription for a murder trial where you know the guy is going to get off because there are too many important questions unanswered. And the call it science. PAH! Hysteria more like

The brain slows down or at least has more information to process from experience as we get older... it's a natural process. People who have never taken marijuana in their lives also suffer from exactly the same problems.

[ducatilover]

Okay okay I'll admit it. Cannabis smoking is harmful, as is drinking black tea and sticky buns harmful. Harm is relative, like bike accident carnage.

Many things are not mentioned, my main concern is the loss of potential. But many never fulfil their potential anyway even without weed to make them lazy.

Thank you, 'bout time someone said it.
You're right, the harm is relative.
I'm fucked then, I drink black tea.

The brain slows down or at least has more information to process from experience as we get older... it's a natural process. People who have never taken marijuana in their lives also suffer from exactly the same problems.

I'm completely bonkers and I don't smoke it

[mashman]

I'm completely bonkers and I don't smoke it

Yeah, but you're special

[ducatilover]

Yeah, but you're special

Obviously, I have a thing for bikes with two cylinders, yet keep buying stupid faggoty 4 cylinder ones.

[haydes55]

not just those in the high-risk categories such as the young, or those susceptible to mental illness, as previously thought

Whilst marijuana is illegal high risk categories such as youths and mentally ill people have as much access to marijuana as the next person. So if they can prove harm to these categories only why not legalise it and restrict it's sale to youth, intoxicated/stoned people and mentally ill. Right now, being illegal, a drug dealer wants cash from anyone, child, mentally ill or not. Legalise it and these people of high risk will find it harder to get.