Free the weed, dope, cannabis, hooch, Fri 4 Feb, outside Auckland District Courts

[ducatilover]

Translate that to marijuana which has never been proven to harm let alone kill yet it's illegal?

It's been linked to triggering schizophrenia, memory loss and reduced cognitive function. Hasn't been a huge amount of people affected like this, but I imagine this is why it's still illegal. I have papers buried somewhere from a study I did on it.

Yup, you're right. But there is a lot of documented evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that that tobacco does significantly reduce the life span of long term users, and that it causes a lot of harm. It has been proven to constrict blood vessels, and therefore reduce the amount of blood flow around the body. This last point is not something that is mere speculation, it is an undeniable fact.

However, there is no evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that cannabis is particularly harmful.

No doubt about that. It's these stupid semantics that keep it legal though (and the lovely tax they make from it here)
I have not yet heard a good argument for pro-pot though.

[scissorhands]

Yup, you're right. But there is a lot of documented evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that that tobacco does significantly reduce the life span of long term users, and that it causes a lot of harm. It has been proven to constrict blood vessels, and therefore reduce the amount of blood flow around the body. This last point is not something that is mere speculation, it is an undeniable fact.

However, there is no evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that cannabis is particularly harmful.

Whereas cannabis increases blood flow, dilating blood vessels, thereby allowing more oxygen (which is carried by the extra blood) to enter cells. This is the secret to cannabis's benefits.... as to the anti cancer claims, more oxygen enters cells and prevents cancer cells forming. Cancer thrives in a de oxygenated environment.

The burnt plant material, cellulose, becomes CO3 and CO2 and a hundred other bad things.

But in very small quantities that are negligible, and offset by the beneficial effect of more oxygen from increased circulation.

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[scissorhands]

I have not yet heard a good argument for pro-pot though.

I think i just gave you a good arguement one a minute ago

There are dozens more I'm afraid

Sure some nutters will not heal their minds getting high all the time, and some nutters will medicate well on the stuff, so hey, keep it away from the wrong people!

[ducatilover]

Whereas cannabis increases blood flow, dilating blood vessels, thereby allowing more oxygen (which is carried by the extra blood) to enter cells. This is the secret to cannabis's benefits.... as to the anti cancer claims, more oxygen enter cells and prevents cells forming. Cancer thrives in a de oxygenated environment. The burnt plant material, cellulose, becomes CO3 and CO2 and a hundred other bad things.

But in very small quantities that are negligible, and offset by the beneficial effect of more oxygen from increased circulation.

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Interesting stuff. So, these are examples of what I was looking for, thanks.
I might do some more research, although it's hard to find unbiased material that comes from a neutral standing point.

[ducatilover]

There are dozens more I'm afraid

Sure some nutters will not heal their minds getting high all the time, and some nutters will medicate well on the stuff, so hey, keep it away from the wrong people!

If you have time, I'd like to hear more.

The problem is, people who don't medicate well and want it, will bring up their rights...

[SMOKEU]

It's been linked to triggering schizophrenia, memory loss and reduced cognitive function. Hasn't been a huge amount of people affected like this, but I imagine this is why it's still illegal. I have papers buried somewhere from a study I did on it.

That is nothing but mere speculation, except for the memory loss part which is only true while the user is under the influence.

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+1

[scumdog]

That is nothing but mere speculation, except for the memory loss part which is only true while the user is under the influence.

Well at least from what you remember....

Ban it, nicotene and alcohol I say...

[scissorhands]

I can see why you like Ducati's

[SMOKEU]

Well at least from what you remember....

Ban it, nicotene and alcohol I say...

Ban bikes as well, they're too bloody dangerous. Wrap the kids in cotton wool next and ban rugby, too. Then put a speed limiter on all cars so they can't go faster than 20kmh.

[ducatilover]

That is nothing but mere speculation, except for the memory loss part which is only true while the user is under the influence.



+1

I'm trying to find a copy of "The Human Toxicity of Marijuana" and possibly any related articles.
It's been a while since I searched archives and I doubt anything I may (or may not) find will be read or considered anyway. I've spent too much time debating with marijuana users to have hope of reasonable debate.

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/2174024

I can't find any full reports, I'm failing at this lol

[ducatilover]

I can see why you like Ducati's

You caught me

[scissorhands]

I've spent too much time debating with marijuana users to have hope of reasonable debate.

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/2174024

I can't find any full reports, I'm failing at this lol

Hmmm, I think you need a joint!

[ducatilover]

Hmmm, I think you need a joint!

Gave that up some time ago
I prefer the killer B's, bikes, 'baccy, booze and bitches.

[scissorhands]

Gave that up some time ago
I prefer the killer B's, bikes, 'baccy, booze and bitches.

Aye, truth be known I'm having a few Bavarian lagers tonight...

If I had to choose between alcohol and weed I would keep alcohol, its food with vitamins and minerals. Stout....mmmm

[ducatilover]

Aye, truth be known I'm having a few Bavarian lagers tonight...

If I had to choose between alcohol and weed I would keep alcohol, its food with vitamins and minerals. Stout....mmmm

Liquid bread innit?