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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    The world's current food production is capabe of feeding from 2 to 3 x the present population. It's not a problem of population or production but of distribution.

    The food waste of the Western world would feed the starving in the third world. Nationalism and "commercial requirements" including greed coupled with Governmental corruption in most of the third world, (okay the whole world), makes certain millions of people are starving to death needlessly.
    Nah, I dont agree about the food thing & feeding the equivalent population of 14-21 Billion people & nor would the UN &
    David Attenborough.
    But I do agree with the rest of what you say.

    Thoughts Ive had include
    Seize all indebted property
    Seize all money.
    Divy out all the resources & money equally to every person on the Planet so no one feels hard done by.
    Attatch rules so that you are not entitled to these resources unless you toe the line. (Sustainability)
    Not pretty, but whats the option....
    There is no easy fix but the alternative is a far worse scenario....social & climatic Armageddon.
    And if you think that "she'll be right mate in NZ" the lady I heard talking about this subject with Jim on NatRad this arvo thought that we , because our country still has empty land & water, that we will be swamped by refugees.
    We are not going to be able to shoot them all as they get off the boats,we simply dont have enough ammo.
    And realistically none of us keyboard heroes would have the stomach for it.
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    Although people see it as a violation of their rights, an effective way for the world to continue in a sustainable manner, would be to live under a modified Dictator regime. The dictator make sure assets are distributed evenly from rich to poor countries, and everyone has a sustainable base income to live off.

    The only problem is, That power corrupts and people would use it for their own gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivion View Post
    Although people see it as a violation of their rights, an effective way for the world to continue in a sustainable manner, would be to live under a modified Dictator regime. The dictator make sure assets are distributed evenly from rich to poor countries, and everyone has a sustainable base income to live off.

    The only problem is, That power corrupts and people would use it for their own gain.
    I agree. Dictators are dodgey. but what about a World Govt.? Along the lines of the U.N?

    I also think we need an advocate like Eren Brokovich which could take those we deemed unworthy(politicians for a start) to the World Court on charges of conspiracy & corruption & no doubt charges of Crimes against humanity & gross incompetence for passing the buck for to long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Yup! And it is the corruption and civil violence in these countries that mean it is virtually impossible to help them.
    Does corruption breed violence or does violence breed corruption? I'm going for the first option as I see the two very much inter linked.

    As for systems that require $$$, they will all fail. It will only take 1 person to value their commodity over those produced by others and the "weakness" of the consumers to throw us back into the current situation. New thinking is required as is a new system of living and value attributed trade does not feature, not in it's current form. As soon as we move to some form of commodity based value system supply and demand comes into effect and that's the game changer for just about any resource. Until we figure out how to share, yes share, we won't move forwards. Money is not the answer, neither is a commodity valued system.
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    The Environment News Service on 12th May 2011 reported that 1/3 of the world's food production is lost or wasted each year.

    The Wall Street Journal, Sept. 3, 2011 carried an article, "Can the world still feed itself" Answer? "Yes".
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    Rrrrrrrrright, so some one's tellin fibs......
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    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post

    So what are we going to do about it.
    If some of you could die, that would be jolly helpful.
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    We need a plague
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    We need a plague
    I agree. But some medico boffin will find a cure for it!

    Stop medicating.

    Let the poor and corrupt countries sort themselves out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    I agree. But some medico boffin will find a cure for it!

    A 2 week power cut would be an excellent wake up for a lot of completely soft society deadbeats!
    So kill all of the doctors and researchers.

    True, the rich won't be so happy then ... let 'em eat shotgun barrel
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    So kill all of the doctors and researchers.

    True, the rich won't be so happy then ... let 'em eat shotgun barrel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post

    and STOP WASTING FOOD


    DONT SCREW UP MY BEER SUPPLIES OR I WILL GO APE !!!
    I agree with both above points.


    We have enough food currently, it's poorly distributed because every cunt is greedy.
    If it's going to become a problem, people should become more self sufficient.
    Hell, I'll start a vege place or what have you if there's a need.

    The general populace is too bloody lazy to grow their own food and many rely on processed shite. We have the resources, ability and technology to produce decent food in abundance.



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    Maybe I should've kept it simpler & just made a poll out of it......

    Real simple , 2 questions along the lines that kids can get e.g

    Question :Can we fix it ?
    A: Yes we can.
    B: Nah, its fucked.


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    Simple way of looking at it.

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