World lacks enough food, fuel as population soars

[blue rider]

Maybe I should've kept it simpler & just made a poll out of it......

Real simple , 2 questions along the lines that kids can get e.g

Question :Can we fix it ?
A: Yes we can.
B: Nah, its fucked.

you forgot option c: let them eat cake

[SMOKEU]

We need a plague

It's called AIDS. Just as well it's ethnically selective. Most of the time.

[puddytat]

It's called AIDS. Just as well it's ethnically selective. Most of the time.

then you should be careful when your missus has it off with a bisexual male

[mashman]

Maybe I should've kept it simpler & just made a poll out of it......

Real simple , 2 questions along the lines that kids can get e.g

Question :Can we fix it ?
A: Yes we can.
B: Nah, its fucked.

My 8yr old daughter believes we can fix it. I agree with her.

[mashman]

Lead bullets. If the bullet doesn't kill them the poisoning to follow will

Nice ... perhaps a rusty blunt knife, or a spoon

you forgot option c: let them eat cake

that's covered under B isn't it?

[ducatilover]

Maybe I should've kept it simpler & just made a poll out of it......

Real simple , 2 questions along the lines that kids can get e.g

Question :Can we fix it ?
A: Yes we can.
B: Nah, its fucked.

Sure we can, why not?

[blue rider]

can we fix it...depends

considering that quite a bit of the food production comes form industrial farming be it grains or meat, usually grown in one place and than distributed at the other end of the world.....no we can't. As Big Agribusiness will have no one piss in their money pot.

alleviate hunger by re-growing locally using local grains and planting methods, yes some of the hunger in this world could be reduced/stopped.

however this is not going to happen.


re obesity: it is not a sign of too much food, it is a sign of shit food without any nutritional value. only fat and sugar.

[puddytat]

And so do I Mashy......
See most of the 40 something demographic who frequent this site tend to blithely make fun of the scenario....
"Know that ye condem your children to hell on Earth whilst playing with thine baubles (should read balls) & they shalt curse you & tear down your image while tearing out their hair and teeth gnashing.For thou chose the False idol, Money over the true Master of us all...Mother Earth.Only then wilst thou learn that thou cant eat money & it tastes like shit''

[mashman]

considering that quite a bit of the food production comes form industrial farming be it grains or meat, usually grown in one place and than distributed at the other end of the world.....no we can't. As Big Agribusiness will have no one piss in their money pot.

So take Agribusiness out the the equation. If they're that keen on seeing death, I'm more than happy to take an Uzi to their next AGM. Someone mentioned that the current population could fit in texas. That leaves an awful lot of land to grow stuff on. We just can't do it with $$$.

alleviate hunger by re-growing locally using local grains and planting methods, yes some of the hunger in this world could be reduced/stopped.

however this is not going to happen.

I disagree. There's plenty of ways to setup vertical growing operations that don't require soil and we could quite easily put some form of rotation system in place to manage the grow... if it weren't for $$$ no doubt some people would do it because they enjoy the job.

re obesity: it is not a sign of too much food, it is a sign of shit food without any nutritional value. only fat and sugar.

Very true... but exercise can counter that... and to be honest, if someone wants to eat/drink/drug themselves to death and they're not hurting anyone else, that's entirely up to them. The body needs some form of food, we can live on rice if need be, we just need to do something without $$$ as an incentive.

[SMOKEU]

drug themselves to death and they're not hurting anyone else, that's entirely up to them.

But then they're a criminal.

[James Deuce]

And so do I Mashy......
See most of the 40 something demographic who frequent this site tend to blithely make fun of the scenario....
"Know that ye condem your children to hell on Earth whilst playing with thine baubles (should read balls) & they shalt curse you & tear down your image while tearing out their hair and teeth gnashing.For thou chose the False idol, Money over the true Master of us all...Mother Earth.Only then wilst thou learn that thou cant eat money & it tastes like shit''

As I've said repeatedly you're not willing to make the changes necessary to make a difference, so the only option is to take the piss. Ditch the bike, the car, any clothing with anything artificial in it, get off the electricity grid, and grow most of your own food, stop buying packaged food, and most of all only buy/barter goods and services from a radius of action easily traversable on foot and then you're making a start on what needs to happen to avoid your apocalyptically tainted, muttered, doom-ridden, essentially over-educated, intensely middle class guilt laden, liberal prophecy . Then I might be willing to discuss the situation. Face to face after walking to meet you. We'll drink home brew we carried with us, made from rainwater and locally produced goods, and "bottled" in home made kiln fired clay jars.

Most of the Western world isn't ready or willing to reduce their standard of Living to that of an Indian village dweller

But seriously, some of you pop off and die please.

[mashman]

And so do I Mashy......
See most of the 40 something demographic who frequent this site tend to blithely make fun of the scenario....
"Know that ye condem your children to hell on Earth whilst playing with thine baubles (should read balls) & they shalt curse you & tear down your image while tearing out their hair and teeth gnashing.For thou chose the False idol, Money over the true Master of us all...Mother Earth.Only then wilst thou learn that thou cant eat money & it tastes like shit''

heh, probably because they're similar to the rest of the worlds 40yr old demographic, and want to be normal, in that it doesn't and shouldn't affect them directly and their kids will be alright because they'll have been taught how to be self-efficient and will have daddies money etc...
That quote is bang on the money imho, we're going to leave a shithole behind us that is completely avoidable, no need to prevent it from happening though, coz we'll be dead. But this is KB

[puddytat]

As I've said repeatedly you're not willing to make the changes necessary to make a difference, so the only option is to take the piss. Ditch the bike, the car, any clothing with anything artificial in it, get off the electricity grid, and grow most of your own food, stop buying packaged food, and most of all only buy/barter goods and services from a radius of action easily traversable on foot and then you're making a start on what needs to happen to avoid your apocalyptically tainted, muttered, doom-ridden, essentially over-educated, intensely middle class guilt laden, liberal prophecy . Then I might be willing to discuss the situation. Face to face after walking to meet you. We'll drink home brew we carried with us, made from rainwater and locally produced goods, and "bottled" in home made kiln fired clay jars.

Most of the Western world isn't ready or willing to reduce their standard of Living to that of an Indian village dweller

But seriously, some of you pop off and die please.

well hopefully one day we will meet & talk about it face to face because it'll way easier to see that on many levels we share the same beliefs.
I am not suggesting at all that we become luddites,what with all the gizmos, education & technology & with what fossil fuels we have left ,now is the time to do something about it as its only going to get harder the larger the problem becomes.
As for making changes well I have made a few but to mention them here will only lead to you thinking Im being smug..... as well as all the other things.

[superman]

People die. Tis the way of the world.

Maybe we'll be smart enough to keep casualties to a minimum... doubt it.

[mashman]

Most of the Western world isn't ready or willing to reduce their standard of Living to that of an Indian village dweller

But seriously, some of you pop off and die please.

killjoys...

I shall oblige thee someday, but not just yet, sorry.