4kmh tolerance for Waitangi Weekend until 29 February?

**FJRider** · 2nd February 2012, 16:54

Originally Posted by yod

followed by the MkIII Cortinas

Originally Posted by yod

my old man had a Viva as a company car, and then a MkIII

mmmmmmmmmm ...

**martybabe** · 2nd February 2012, 16:55

[QUOTE=rastuscat;1130249029. I used to like people.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure they used to like you too.

**scumdog** · 2nd February 2012, 17:52

Originally Posted by Maha

Because its not about the money (that just fabel)
Its about enforcing the set speed limit on our roads.
Why is it difficult for some to get that?

I feel you are way to obtuse for most ranters here.

"WHo cares about safety - it's a fucking speed limit, obey it - or pay".

THAT is how TPTB should 'market' it, no shilly-shallying around.

Then KB ranters would stop whinging about getting tickets...

(Tuis moment....)

**scumdog** · 2nd February 2012, 17:54

Originally Posted by MSTRS

That explains a lot...
You've never been a proper cop

Wow, I bet you can talk your way out of a shit-load of tickets with THAT line!!

**davereid** · 2nd February 2012, 18:00

Originally Posted by scumdog

"WHo cares about safety - it's a fucking speed limit, obey it - or pay". THAT is how TPTB should 'market' it, no shilly-shallying around.

Thats what I reckon too. Lets stop trying to link it to dodgy science, unprovable statistics and common sense.

Lets treat it like an expired driver licence.
We know you did the test.
We know you have no tickets.
We know its a qualification not an ID card.
We know you already hold a lifetime licence, that we made you sit the test for, pay for, and that we issued you, but we have broken the contract on that.
Your ID card oops licence is too old for the facial recognition software to work properly, so we have to crush your car.

In the interests of public safety of course.

**st00ji** · 2nd February 2012, 18:05

this 4k tolerance business does anger me.

i've had 2 or 3 tickets for it now (slow learner eh) mainly because i forget that its being enforced. i once got two on the same day, saying i was doing 60k in our cage. i never, and i mean never, go over 60 in 50 zones in the cage, and as someone else mentioned speedos typically read high. so how do you figure that?

then earlier this year i got another one for 55. 55! fuck me.

its a bunch of random BS, im getting tickets for going about my daily business.

if they want to strictly enforce the speed limits thats fine. just say so and fucking do it. if they want to make the so called tolerance 4k, thats also fine. i dont really give a fuck. just be consistent!!!

oh, and dont try and pass it off as some safety thing, what a pile of rubbish. a massive line of traffic all doing 5k over the limit is just as safe as the same line doing 5k under. its muppets going 20k faster than everyone else, or overtaking in silly places that fuck things up. and those are the cunts that dont give a shit about the tolerance, be it 4k or 10.

**FJRider** · 2nd February 2012, 18:10

Originally Posted by davereid

Thats what I reckon too. Lets stop trying to link it to dodgy science, unprovable statistics and common sense.

Lets treat it like an expired driver licence.
We know you did the test.
We know you have no tickets.
We know its a qualification not an ID card.
We know you already hold a lifetime licence, that we made you sit the test for, pay for, and that we issued you, but we have broken the contract on that.
Your ID card oops licence is too old for the facial recognition software to work properly, so we have to crush your car.

In the interests of public safety of course.

OR ...

We treat it like a law ... and obey it.

In the interests of safety of not only road users ... but others living, working, moving ... near any public roadway.

**willytheekid** · 2nd February 2012, 18:36

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Cruise control doesn't cause speeding offences, it's the person using the cruise control that causes the speed the vehicle travels at.

Come on Willy, don't blame the Italian Stallion for your tickets........

"cough"....actually

I was referring to the limitations of cruise control in that they actually average 7kph "drift"-either side of a set speed...eg 100k set = possible 93-107kph actual speed, hence the possibility for a mechanical deficiency to allow a person to exceed the rather tight 4k "official" tolerance

I'm all for increased safety on the roads and safe driving practices (kept me alive on two wheels for 30yrs now...well, 24th of feb is 30yrs

), I just don't think this particular "champagne" is actually helping!...it seems to be doing quite the reverse.

As for my PhatGirl...I could never blame my tractor mate

...but that Nut that connects the handlebars to the seat!

.

Ride safe Ras

...Oh yeah, have a great trip this weekend

**willytheekid** · 2nd February 2012, 18:42

Originally Posted by FJRider

OR ...

We treat it like a law ... and obey it.

In the interests of safety of not only road users ... but others living, working, moving ... near any public roadway.

.........You used to be cool man!

Have a great weekend FJ, Ride safe

**FJRider** · 2nd February 2012, 18:45

Originally Posted by st00ji

this 4k tolerance business does anger me.

i've had 2 or 3 tickets for it now (slow learner eh) mainly because i forget that its being enforced. i once got two on the same day, saying i was doing 60k in our cage. i never, and i mean never, go over 60 in 50 zones in the cage, and as someone else mentioned speedos typically read high. so how do you figure that?

then earlier this year i got another one for 55. 55! fuck me.

its a bunch of random BS, im getting tickets for going about my daily business.

if they want to strictly enforce the speed limits thats fine. just say so and fucking do it. if they want to make the so called tolerance 4k, thats also fine. i dont really give a fuck. just be consistent!!!

oh, and dont try and pass it off as some safety thing, what a pile of rubbish. a massive line of traffic all doing 5k over the limit is just as safe as the same line doing 5k under. its muppets going 20k faster than everyone else, or overtaking in silly places that fuck things up. and those are the cunts that dont give a shit about the tolerance, be it 4k or 10.

Actually .... in the "Old days" ... the open road "tolerance" was 10 kms/hr. But searching the subject on google ... I found the tolerance was given as 10% of the speed limit. NOT 10 kms/hr over ANY posted speed limit.

**steve_t** · 2nd February 2012, 18:49

Originally Posted by FJRider

Actually .... in the "Old days" ... the open road "tolerance" was 10 kms/hr. But searching the subject on google ... I found the tolerance was given as 10% of the speed limit. NOT 10 kms/hr over ANY posted speed limit.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/ne...ectid=10730840

Most practically, this sterner attitude led to the trial of a lower tolerance of speeding - down from 10km/h over legal limits to 4km/h - during holiday weekends.

**RDJ** · 2nd February 2012, 18:57

Originally Posted by javawocky

NO Tolerance and increase speed limit to 110 (well 120 would be nice but you get my point)

This moving the goal posts is bull.

Welll... 'they' have to keep moving the goal posts. Otherwise someone will ask why the authorities claim credit when heavy handed anti-speed measures (allegedly) reduce the road toll, but when the road toll rises those same authorities deny any responsibility....

**scumdog** · 2nd February 2012, 19:14

Originally Posted by FJRider

Actually .... in the "Old days" ... the open road "tolerance" was 10 kms/hr. But searching the subject on google ... I found the tolerance was given as 10% of the speed limit. NOT 10 kms/hr over ANY posted speed limit.

About ten years ago the tolerance was 20kph - town or open road, ergo 120kph was the de facto open road speed limit...

Then some bean counter

scratched his head and thought "What gives, when people speed they always speed by 20+kph?"

Then the penny dropped

and as they say "The rest id history".

**RDJ** · 2nd February 2012, 19:22

Considering the lending crisis they handed us, it seems suprising that we don't enforce zero tolerance for bean counters getting more than 4% bonuses...