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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Processing cost of a ticket is $26. Fact. (Source - Internal audit.)

    So the gubbermnit makes $4 from a ticket for 55, but $146 from a ticket for 71.

    Yeah, no wonder they are so keen on us writing tickets for 55.
    By the time tax gets me several times and bills take a bite then my wife cleans up idd be excited to make $4.00 a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    Does that include speed camera vans? Say all tickets from the vans were only $30 so a $4 profit was made...
    (obviously the average will be much higher)



    Extrapolated over the year gives approx 600,000 speed camera tickets. Profit of $4 per ticket is...
    Hold the phone !!!!!!!

    The cost is to the Police. Like, the processing cost comes from the Police operational budget.

    The fine money, when/if paid, goes to the consolidated fund.

    So the cost to the Police is actually not offset by the fine revenue. In the huge scheme, I guess we are funded for the cost via fine revenue, although it's a tenuous relationship. The Police receive 21% of our funding from the Land Transport Fund, of which fine revenue is a small part.

    One thing that remains constant. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. Is there a pattern forming here?

    Alternately, persist with the thought that it's all a grubby revenue gathering exercise. Okay, I don't agree, but if that's your kick, crack on. The best way to fix the grubby, quota obsessed bastards is similar to above. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. That'll learn 'em.

    Standing back, it all just looks so damn simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Hold the phone !!!!!!!

    The cost is to the Police. Like, the processing cost comes from the Police operational budget.

    The fine money, when/if paid, goes to the consolidated fund.

    So the cost to the Police is actually not offset by the fine revenue. In the huge scheme, I guess we are funded for the cost via fine revenue, although it's a tenuous relationship. The Police receive 21% of our funding from the Land Transport Fund, of which fine revenue is a small part.

    One thing that remains constant. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. Is there a pattern forming here?

    Alternately, persist with the thought that it's all a grubby revenue gathering exercise. Okay, I don't agree, but if that's your kick, crack on. The best way to fix the grubby, quota obsessed bastards is similar to above. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. That'll learn 'em.

    Standing back, it all just looks so damn simple.
    Where does the other 79% of Police funding come from? Hey, I've never said it's grubby revenue gathering!

    I did just that tonight. An RBT on the main road as I went home but I hadn't had a drop of alcomohol! I sure showed them

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Hold the phone !!!!!!!

    The cost is to the Police. Like, the processing cost comes from the Police operational budget.

    The fine money, when/if paid, goes to the consolidated fund.

    So the cost to the Police is actually not offset by the fine revenue. In the huge scheme, I guess we are funded for the cost via fine revenue, although it's a tenuous relationship. The Police receive 21% of our funding from the Land Transport Fund, of which fine revenue is a small part.

    One thing that remains constant. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. Is there a pattern forming here?

    Alternately, persist with the thought that it's all a grubby revenue gathering exercise. Okay, I don't agree, but if that's your kick, crack on. The best way to fix the grubby, quota obsessed bastards is similar to above. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. That'll learn 'em.

    Standing back, it all just looks so damn simple.
    dont smoke,dont speed,dont drink,dont fornicate,dont do drugs,dont stress,dont eat fatty food,dont cross the road......And you have a 67% chance of living forever.Dont pay tax and IRD will make you wish you died already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Alternately, persist with the thought that it's all a grubby revenue gathering exercise. Okay, I don't agree, but if that's your kick, crack on. The best way to fix the grubby, quota obsessed bastards is similar to above. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. That'll learn 'em.

    Standing back, it all just looks so damn simple.
    don't murder you won't get charged with murder...
    Arthur Allan Thomas He spent 9 years in prison but was given a Royal Pardon, and was released and awarded $1 million compensation for wrongful convictions.

    ok don't rape you won't get charged with rape... oh wait...
    David Dougherty After serving over 3 years in prison, he was acquitted in 1997 after new DNA evidence ruled him out.
    Aaron Farmer served 2 years and 3 months in prison for the rape of a Christchurch woman before being exonerated by DNA evidence.


    right well surely you don't smack someone round you won't be done for assault??? right???
    Tania Vini, Macushla Fuataha The girls served seven months in prison before being released. Justice Gault, said the girls had the courtʼs sympathy for the injustice that had wrongly sent them to prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    don't murder you won't get charged with murder...
    Arthur Allan Thomas He spent 9 years in prison but was given a Royal Pardon, and was released and awarded $1 million compensation for wrongful convictions.

    ok don't rape you won't get charged with rape... oh wait...
    David Dougherty After serving over 3 years in prison, he was acquitted in 1997 after new DNA evidence ruled him out.
    Aaron Farmer served 2 years and 3 months in prison for the rape of a Christchurch woman before being exonerated by DNA evidence.


    right well surely you don't smack someone round you won't be done for assault??? right???
    Tania Vini, Macushla Fuataha The girls served seven months in prison before being released. Justice Gault, said the girls had the courtʼs sympathy for the injustice that had wrongly sent them to prison.

    Yup, got me on that one.

    Best I can do is, please advise which of those were put in jail by a traffic Popo?

    Weak, but best I can do.

    I've previously posted about how much of a bastard it must be to be an innocent accused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    Where does the other 79% of Police funding come from? Hey, I've never said it's grubby revenue gathering!

    I did just that tonight. An RBT on the main road as I went home but I hadn't had a drop of alcomohol! I sure showed them
    79% comes from the consolidated fund, via a thing called Vote Police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Hold the phone !!!!!!!

    The cost is to the Police. Like, the processing cost comes from the Police operational budget.

    The fine money, when/if paid, goes to the consolidated fund.

    So the cost to the Police is actually not offset by the fine revenue. In the huge scheme, I guess we are funded for the cost via fine revenue, although it's a tenuous relationship. The Police receive 21% of our funding from the Land Transport Fund, of which fine revenue is a small part.

    One thing that remains constant. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. Is there a pattern forming here?

    Alternately, persist with the thought that it's all a grubby revenue gathering exercise. Okay, I don't agree, but if that's your kick, crack on. The best way to fix the grubby, quota obsessed bastards is similar to above. Don't spid, no spidding ticket. Wear your setablet, no setatblet ticket. Stop at stop signs, no stop sign ticket. That'll learn 'em.

    Standing back, it all just looks so damn simple.
    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    79% comes from the consolidated fund, via a thing called Vote Police.
    So let me get this straight, the money from fines goes into the consolidated fund and 79% of police funding comes from the consolidated fund but the cost of processing fines come from the police operating budget and so is only 'tenuously' associated with fine money? Is that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    So let me get this straight, the money from fines goes into the consolidated fund and 79% of police funding comes from the consolidated fund but the cost of processing fines come from the police operating budget and so is only 'tenuously' associated with fine money? Is that right?
    Yes, coarsely speaking. I don't work for Treasury, so you'll have to check with them.

    Bottom line is that the guy writing the ticket gets paid the same, regardless of how many tickets he writes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yes, coarsely speaking. I don't work for Treasury, so you'll have to check with them.

    Bottom line is that the guy writing the ticket gets paid the same, regardless of how many tickets he writes.
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    I'll probably get shot for this, but traffic seemed to run a bit more smoothly this last week.

    It has me wondering if some of the fucking numpties that normally screw the traffic flow up by travelling at 30k under the limit were actually taking a look at what their speedometers were registering from time to time for fear of being caught speeding, and were picking up the pace after realising how slowly they were actually going.

    Or maybe it was just not too bad a week and there was a numpty convention out of town somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadows View Post
    I'll probably get shot for this, but traffic seemed to run a bit more smoothly this last week.

    It has me wondering if some of the fucking numpties that normally screw the traffic flow up by travelling at 30k under the limit were actually taking a look at what their speedometers were registering from time to time for fear of being caught speeding, and were picking up the pace after realising how slowly they were actually going.

    Or maybe it was just not too bad a week and there was a numpty convention out of town somewhere.
    I drove out to Oxford today, and saw a grand total of three cars heading in the same direction as me on the Old West Coast rd, all three of whom were hovering around 75-80, so I can't really say I agree there.
    Having said that, I also got overtaken by a guy who apparently wasn't so worried about speeding tickets (or the possibility I may need to brake while he was a metre or two off my bumper) doing 120+ once I'd gotten onto Depot rd, and the two cars I came across on the way back were also meeting/exceeding the limit, so I guess it's pretty much a matter of luck of the draw.

    Traffic pretty much seems the same as it always is - some under and some over the limit, too few at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Processing cost of a ticket is $26. Fact. (Source - Internal audit.)

    So the gubbermnit makes $4 from a ticket for 55, but $146 from a ticket for 71.

    Yeah, no wonder they are so keen on us writing tickets for 55.

    Ah yes., but there must be "economies of scale" to be considered here. Maybe the plan is to reduce that unit cost by increasing the volume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Vote Police.
    Never!

    10 char
    Oh bugger

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yes, coarsely speaking. I don't work for Treasury, so you'll have to check with them.

    Bottom line is that the guy writing the ticket gets paid the same, regardless of how many tickets he writes.
    No matter what, you cunts get hated on by the same people in threads like this whatever you say. I take my hat off to your persistance.

    Funny as fuck, I'd have a beer with you, (don't worry, I won't be sitting by the letter box awaiting an invitation) before this Scuba Steve character who only appears to be capable of writing, but not reading. That's a very unique problem though, could an educater type on here tell me how this poor fellow could have slipped through the cracks in the system?
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