VFR owners' thread, for VFRPS members and prospective members

**lukemillar** · 10th February 2012, 18:14

Originally Posted by motordrummer

Great info! thanks for the link....very useful indeed. I'll prob just keep it standard for now, but will keep an eye out for 17" wheel- in case i have a prob finding decent tyres for the bike. Cheers aye

I think for road tyres, you'll be fine! I'm using slicks and wet race tyres.

**koba** · 10th February 2012, 21:49

Originally Posted by Gingin

Hint hint to anybody reading this and may know where I can pick one up aye. [/SIZE]

Try Econohonda.

**lukemillar** · 11th February 2012, 06:59

Originally Posted by ecko_nzed

I've managed to find the size, M20 x 1.5, and available from Rick Oliver in the UK for 5 pound. Does anyone here have one I could borrow, as I can't be arsed waiting for it to arrive. Will pay freight obviously?

I'm sure you're probably sorted by now, but whereabouts are you? I saw some dude with a very nice RVF last weekend about 2mins from where I live, and wondered if it was you? Newtown/Melrose area?

**ecko_nzed** · 11th February 2012, 13:46

Originally Posted by lukemillar

I'm sure you're probably sorted by now, but whereabouts are you? I saw some dude with a very nice RVF last weekend about 2mins from where I live, and wondered if it was you? Newtown/Melrose area?

Yeah well sorted, took the block down to Motomart and they popped it off for me. although I got Rick Oliver to chuck one in the last order I got from him. Nope wasn't me riding the RVF as mines in bits in my garage. Worlds longest rebuild.

I'm up in Upper Hutt btw.

**Scuba_Steve** · 11th February 2012, 17:55

Cheers Gingin I went through all the tests, everything seemed to be reporting ok.
So stuck I went back to investigate a noise I thought I was hearing upfront (which I was putting off as people were writing it off as "lack of compression", "normal" for these bikes, or "nothing to worry about" etc, etc & being upfront behind the radiator I was hoping to avoid pulling everything off just to get to it. So I guess I was "hearing what I wanted" rather than going with gut)
So after pulling off all the fairings emptying the radiator & pulling that off, taking off the front cover. Sitting at the bottom in some oil I think I might have found my problem? (photo'd)
4 small blue springs & 2 chew'd pieces of metal.
So hopefully someone might be able to tell me where these came from & what I'm going to need to replace and also confirm my problem is found (I'd hate to find I have multiple issues).

**DrunkenMistake** · 11th February 2012, 18:18

They look like Rocker springs... haha
Or clutch springs but I would put money on Rocker Springs

**HenryDorsetCase** · 11th February 2012, 18:47

what is the "Front cover" you pulled off? which side of the engine? or are you talking about the top rockerbox cover for the front pair of cylinders.

Pretty sure though that having those bits floating around might be slightly out of the HRC guidelines for these motors.......

**Scuba_Steve** · 11th February 2012, 18:56

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

what is the "Front cover" you pulled off? which side of the engine? or are you talking about the top rockerbox cover for the front pair of cylinders.

Pretty sure though that having those bits floating around might be slightly out of the HRC guidelines for these motors.......

yea the top cover over the 2 front cylinders (sorry I'm learning this as I go & useless with names)
Haynes manual appears to call it the valve cover I think?

**jono035** · 11th February 2012, 20:01

Man, I sure as hell hope you're trolling us.

Just checked the photos from when I had the heads off mine, it doesn't look like the valve springs that I have. They are all noticeably taller and have more coils on them.

Either way, I'd take a shitload more photos of the cams/rockers from a bunch of angles and post them.

Edit: Well, if they are valve springs, then with 8 valves per head, technically you can have 4 broken valves and still have the engine... cough... operational?

**jono035** · 11th February 2012, 20:24

I'm still wondering if I'm getting trolled, but do you have a photo showing the size of those springs?

Those are the rocker springs there... There is a smaller spring inside the larger ones shown there, but they are still full height.

Also, I've never done anything to the clutch, but it doesn't appear they use coil springs...

It is an NC30 that you've got, right?

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**Scuba_Steve** · 11th February 2012, 20:26

No trollin jono035, what's in the pics is what I found & where I found them.
I stopped there (partly through fear of what I might find & partly because I really don't know what I'm doing down there) but I'll try to find where they came from & take some more pics tho I'm not looking forward to the cost I'm assuming I'm gonna be up for

**jono035** · 11th February 2012, 20:30

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

No trollin jono035, what's in the pics is what I found & where I found them.
I stopped there (partly through fear of what I might find & partly because I really don't know what I'm doing down there) but I'll try to find where they came from & take some more pics tho I'm not looking forward to the cost I'm assuming I'm gonna be up for

Well, the bike had been running, so it can't be all that bad, right?

I'm kinda intrigued now! Can't wait to see some more photos...

**Scuba_Steve** · 11th February 2012, 20:44

Originally Posted by jono035

Well, the bike had been running, so it can't be all that bad, right?

I'm kinda intrigued now! Can't wait to see some more photos...

the 4 springs are 15mm & look complete, I don't think it's an NC30? but I don't know it's the 1986 VFR700FG so whatever that ran?
The photo's below show the 4 springs size, where I opened, where I found the parts (under the big center cog), & the 2 shrapnel pieces

**DrunkenMistake** · 11th February 2012, 20:44

Originally Posted by jono035

Well, the bike had been running, so it can't be all that bad, right?

I'm kinda intrigued now! Can't wait to see some more photos...

They look to big too be clutch springs, my money would be valve springs, they seem to have the same amount of loops in the two photos not to say they are different sizes still though I guess

**HenryDorsetCase** · 11th February 2012, 21:07

no way are they clutch springs. If we've taken off the front valve cover and thats where they are, then they're from round that area logically. Plus mr clutch is on the side of the engine a LONG way away from where these bits are. If they were clutch parts they'd have grenaded teh motor by now, surely.

Its a VFR700 so it appears to have screw and locknut valve lash adjustment? but it has a gear train to drive the cams it seems. Just throwing ideas out (I have not seen inside one of these motors so this is just guesswork, OK). maybe a backlash adjuster in the gear train? inner valve spring? (though I agree they look to small) is there an obvious place where the bits have metal have come from?

is a random internet shot for VFR700 valve train. Does it look like yours? any bits there that arent on yours?