NZTA = money grubbing swine

[Scuba_Steve]

This reminds me of people who forget to pay insurance, get it cancelled, then their vehicle gets stolen, and abuse the insurance company when it wont pay out.

If these organisations and companies decided to wave the fee for their services just because you felt hard done by, then they'd all be bankrupt, and you'd be raging about that instead.

different aint it?, if your vehicles sitting in the garage you are NOT using the service they are charging you for, rego is payment for the privilege to use the roads if your not using them what are you paying for?. For any private company it is illegal for them to charge you for a service you are not utilizing.
But hey if you feel it right to pay for services you are not using, feel free to pay me 60$/hr for the IT support I am not supplying you. Tell you what special deal just for you, $45k and you get a years support, thats a saving of 480,600$ you can't say thats not a good deal

[Macontour]

MY old XJ650 has been on hold for about 10 years(still hope to get it going again one day) and I have to keep renewing the exemption. I recently got a letter saying I now owed them $$$ because I hadn't renewed the exemption. I have since extended the exemption online and am now waiting to see if I get a letter from Baycorp.

[mashman]

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different aint it?, if your vehicles sitting in the garage you are NOT using the service they are charging you for, rego is payment for the privilege to use the roads if your not using them what are you paying for?. For any private company it is illegal for them to charge you for a service you are not utilizing.

You could ask them to introduce black box technology so that they can "manage" your speed, alcohol level, driving style, safety etc... as well as usage. Pay as you go sounds good?

[davereid]

MY old XJ650 has been on hold for about 10 years(still hope to get it going again one day) and I have to keep renewing the exemption. I recently got a letter saying I now owed them $$$ because I hadn't renewed the exemption. I have since extended the exemption online and am now waiting to see if I get a letter from Baycorp.

I have been following this for years.

And I have observed that :

(1) Baycorp dont seem to do anything other than list the debt, they never actually prosecute it. Let me know if you have been prosecuted, but I have never met anyone who has. And if your credit is otherwise sound, debts to the NZTA wont be considered relevant IMHO.

(2) If you do nothing, the vehicle will have its licence canceled. Then you have to re-vin it.

(3) If you don't want to pay the back reg, you need to put it in a new owners name, before it has its licence canceled.

[Scuba_Steve]

You could ask them to introduce black box technology so that they can "manage" your speed, alcohol level, driving style, safety etc... as well as usage. Pay as you go sounds good?

pay as you go sounds good (RUC's for all) black box does not!!!

[GingerMidget]

(3) If you don't want to pay the back reg, you need to put it in a new owners name, before it has its licence canceled.

You do realise, that a bill is sent to the last registered owner for the registration unpaid until the date of transfer?

This is payable online, or by cheque directly to nzta. Not at a post shop/vtnz/blah blah.

[Ocean1]

You do realise, that a bill is sent to the last registered owner for the registration unpaid until the date of transfer?

This is payable online, or by cheque directly to nzta. Not at a post shop/vtnz/blah blah.

Yup.

The 525 is overdue, don't have time to get it warantable so I can register it so I can put it on hold.

It's a fucking rort.

[davereid]

You do realise, that a bill is sent to the last registered owner for the registration unpaid until the date of transfer?
This is payable online, or by cheque directly to nzta. Not at a post shop/vtnz/blah blah.

The idea of putting it a new name, is that if you go to pay for the rego you want they will demand you pay the "overdue" first. When you put it in a new name, the "new registered person" only has to pay from the date they take over.

The old "registered person" will get an account, but as I pointed out, this account can be ignored, as it goes to Baycorp/Veda who other than filing it as a negative credit event do nothing.

If you think your credit rating is marginal then that may be important for you.

But if you pay all your other accounts, it doesn't matter a toss. And like all negative reports it falls out of the system after a few years.

Its up to you. You can pay it if you want, or ignore it.

[Deano]

I had a bike on hold for 3 years, not ridden ever. They didn't send me a letter telling me to renew the exemption this year, found out it was overdue too late. So I changed the ownership to someone else then back then put it on hold so i didn't have to stump up the money for nothing. Cue letter demanding $240 within 7 days or it's going to debt collection. Phone call: "Hi, I'm being charged registration for a bike that's been on hold for years, it's in parts in boxes. You didn't send me a reminder letter and I'm not happy with paying money for nothing."
"The reminder letter is a courtesy, not an obligation. You have to pay us or it's going to debt collection."
FUCKERS

If they regularly send out a reminder letter, but then fail to do so, I was told by a lawyer that you have some legal comeback under what is termed 'promissory estoppel'. Could be worth referencing for any future issues.

[GingerMidget]

Yup.

The 525 is overdue, don't have time to get it warantable so I can register it so I can put it on hold.

It's a fucking rort.

why would you register it, just to put it on hold?

You can put an expired rego on hold, depending when it expires depends how much you pay to bring it up to date. I think if its within two months or so, it shouldn't cost you anything. Try doing it online now.

[FJRider]

If they regularly send out a reminder letter, but then fail to do so, I was told by a lawyer that you have some legal comeback under what is termed 'promissory estoppel'. Could be worth referencing for any future issues.

But if their records show a reminder WAS sent, no comeback applies. As it was out of their hands if it was not recieved.

Short of them sending such reminders in registered mail ... proof of non-receit of mail is difficult.

[Coldrider]

why would you register it, just to put it on hold?

You can put an expired rego on hold, depending when it expires depends how much you pay to bring it up to date. I think if its within two months or so, it shouldn't cost you anything. Try doing it online now.

60 days it can be expired and put on hold with no backdating. The three month minimum hold starts from the date actually put on hold.

[Deano]

But if their records show a reminder WAS sent, no comeback applies. As it was out of their hands if it was not recieved.

Short of them sending such reminders in registered mail ... proof of non-receit of mail is difficult.

True, but the statement from the NZTA was "the letter is a courtesy, not an obligation'.
Whereas if the promissory estoppel is a valid point, they are obliged to continue to send reminders.

[Fast Eddie]

not that I like parting with my money, but gotta say I get regular letters from the transport agency, they always remind me when my rego is about to expire or if one is coming off hold..

guess you gotta make sure they have your address for starters. I think its fairly automated these days.

or at least, good for me.. they remind me so I only pay what I owe and don't feel too hard done by like some haha..

still don't like paying though..

[GingerMidget]

60 days it can be expired and put on hold with no backdating. The three month minimum hold starts from the date actually put on hold.

I know this.