Are the police starting to stumble in the right direction?

[Scuba_Steve]

Just seen on the propaganda machine, police are starting a 6mth trial of a warning 1st system, where 1st time "offenders" of low level traffic offenses (i.e. speeding, giveway, red lights) will be warned rather than fined, in an attempt to try to free up the court rooms.
I believe this is 1 warning per type of offence (at-least that was the impression I got) then the fines start flowing like usual & people like me (previous offences) apparently are unlikely to get the warnings & will still collect toilet paper.

I'm sure someone like rastuscat can clarify all this, but it finally looks like the police are starting to stumble toward the right direction with things like this & rastuscat's "training vs fine" idea

[blackdog]

Meh.

Don't get caught, don't get fined.

[FJRider]

Just seen on the propaganda machine, police are starting a 6mth trial of a warning 1st system, where 1st time "offenders" of low level traffic offenses (i.e. speeding, giveway, red lights) will be warned rather than fined, in an attempt to try to free up the court rooms.
I believe this is 1 warning per type of offence (at-least that was the impression I got) then the fines start flowing like usual & people like me (previous offences) apparently are unlikely to get the warnings & will still collect toilet paper.

I'm sure someone like rastuscat can clarify all this, but it finally looks like the police are starting to stumble toward the right direction with things like this & rastuscat's "training vs fine" idea

Most likely ... when warnings are given ... it may be at the descretion of the officer involved.

NOT ... "as of right" ... (a bit like the 4km/hr tolerance)

[rastuscat]

Have heard rumbles about it, and a new button has appeared on our SMART devices. It says warning, but it's only live in the districts trialling the scheme.

Had a chat last week to a boss up north about this new thing. He said that the only thing they had a problem with was getting the Popos to use the warning system. There's a mindset that if you're not going to write someone a ticket, don't stop them.

I can understand that mindset. I think that if they roll the system out nationwide, maybe we'll see people getting warnings for the things that we're reluctant to fine folk $150 for, like failing to indicate.

Can't see it being anything other than a good thing, really.

[mossy1200]

we're reluctant to fine folk $150 for, like failing to indicate.

Can't see it being anything other than a good thing, really.

How about fine people $150 for not indicating and use common sence when it comes to accidently exceeding limits by small amounts for short periods of time.People get fined for not indicating and they start to learn how to use them quickly.Theres no excuse because you dont accidently turn a corner at intersections.Drive the unmarked popo cars around town a bit more I say.

[RUSS]

but it's only live in the districts trialling the scheme.

It starts today in Auckland I think, I'll find out on Wednesday when I go back to work. I will be giving them to people who do lazy things like not using their indicators or that guy who drives down the onramp at 50km/h to merge with traffic doing 90.

The best thing will be to give them to people who have stuffed up and fallen off the road and they have only damaged their own car or bike. Normally would have to send them to court for careless driving. Why not save the time and public money and give him a warning if it's appropiate?

[Scuba_Steve]

It starts today in Auckland I think, I'll find out on Wednesday when I go back to work. I will be giving them to people who do lazy things like not using their indicators or that guy who drives down the onramp at 50km/h to merge with traffic doing 90.

The best thing will be to give them to people who have stuffed up and fallen off the road and they have only damaged their own car or bike. Normally would have to send them to court for careless driving. Why not save the time and public money and give him a warning if it's appropiate?

this isn't a decent cop in the North Island is it???
actually doing something about real problems like People who can't merge & failing to indicate, while on top of that not pissing people off with fines when they've already learnt their lesson by fucking up their own stuff as well as themselves

Well if this interweb confession is true

[psykonosis]

Have heard rumbles about it, and a new button has appeared on our SMART devices. It says warning, but it's only live in the districts trialling the scheme.

Press and hold home button..."Siri, how should i proceed with penalising this driver/rider...?"

[Road kill]

Bull shit,,,they could always give warnings,,,if they wanted to.
Just public relations,,nothing more.
Same old money gathering shit heads that hid behind mommys skirts an got picked on at school.
POPO ???,,,,,who's bright idea was it for put a pig on line using black gangsta slag to talk about himself ,,,,,get that idea from one of ya' new south african recruits did ya' boys

[davereid]

Bull shit,,,they could always give warnings,,,if they wanted to.

The new system may be able to do effective warnings, as I imagine it is actually able to record the fact you have been warned, and advise the popo on the side of the road that you got one for the same offence last Tuesday at the other end of the country.

So the popo and recipient can both have some confidence that the warning will be taken seriously.

Lets not forget the whole purpose of traffic enforcement is to improve driver behavior, and this may just help.

Good on the police for looking at it rationally.

[Grubber]

Bull shit,,,they could always give warnings,,,if they wanted to.
Just public relations,,nothing more.
Same old money gathering shit heads that hid behind mommys skirts an got picked on at school.
POPO ???,,,,,who's bright idea was it for put a pig on line using black gangsta slag to talk about himself ,,,,,get that idea from one of ya' new south african recruits did ya' boys

Hmmmm. Obviously not a fan of the Police.

[steve_t]

The new system may be able to do effective warnings, as I imagine it is actually able to record the fact you have been warned, and advise the popo on the side of the road that you got one for the same offence last Tuesday at the other end of the country.

So the popo and recipient can both have some confidence that the warning will be taken seriously.

Lets not forget the whole purpose of traffic enforcement is to improve driver behavior, and this may just help.

Good on the police for looking at it rationally.

+1

[Swoop]

...1st time "offenders" of low level traffic offenses (i.e. ... red lights) will be warned...

Fuck that. Hammer the cunts hard who run red lights.
That is a road safety issue.

[Scuba_Steve]

Fuck that. Hammer the cunts hard who run red lights.
That is a road safety issue.

yea I'm with you there, that's why when I'm in the cage & 1st in-line I offer the red light runners the opportunity to be hammered
It's strange how they were "unable" to safely stop for the light, yet they can stop on the spot when a cage pulls in-front of them

[FJRider]

Had a chat last week to a boss up north about this new thing. He said that the only thing they had a problem with was getting the Popos to use the warning system. There's a mindset that if you're not going to write someone a ticket, don't stop them.

I can understand that mindset. I think that if they roll the system out nationwide, maybe we'll see people getting warnings for the things that we're reluctant to fine folk $150 for, like failing to indicate.

Can't see it being anything other than a good thing, really.

Only if the warnings are recorded ... and when the "clients" licence number is punched into your "smart device" you can see that a warning was given to that person. Thus a $150 request is given ...

If you know you have been issued a warning .... and the next time you are stopped for that infringement ... it will cost money ...

Sort of like sitting on x demerits ... an incentive to behave ...