All charges dropped

[Scuba_Steve]

In the pursuit of fairness, I have to point out there are a lot of people ticketed who have earned all of it. I'd like to think cases like mine of completely misplaced ticketing are a very small minority.

But it's still a concern that minority exists.

minority? unsure. But it is a lot more prevalent than you think, which is a sad fact.

[Kiwibaconator]

Kiwibaconator has kept me up-to-date on the progress of this case all the way through.

I was looking forward to being in court to see it play out, but it was all over before I finished work. Congratulations on a successfull outcome.

Let me know when you'd like to collect that beer you've earnt.

[milan24]

good work Kiwibaconator!!
i wish there are more people like you and me out there, who stand up for himself, not just roll over and take it. soon or later, the cop will learn their lesson not to push motorist around without concrete evidence.
i am taking my $230 speeding case to the court of appeal, hopefully i can bring good news in april.

[Kiwibaconator]

How did you get a $230 speeding ticket?

[milan24]

97k on 70 temp. my two argument points are:
the officer used an unapproved method to determine a vehicle’s speed, which fell short of the requisite standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt on the issue of speed as she didn’t maintain a fixed distance throughout the pace check
the temporary speed limit is not enforceable by law as the approved traffic management plan failed to follow Section 5.2(2)(b) of Land Transport Rule Setting of Speed Limits 2003; the approved temporary speed limit is only applied on the southbound, where the alleged offence was took on the northbound
my submissions are written and ready to be sent out, if you are interested, pm me.
cheers

[davereid]

97k on 70 temp. my two argument points are:
the officer used an unapproved method to determine a vehicle’s speed, which fell short of the requisite standard of proof beyond reasonable doubt on the issue of speed as she didn’t maintain a fixed distance throughout the pace check
the temporary speed limit is not enforceable by law as the approved traffic management plan failed to follow Section 5.2(2)(b) of Land Transport Rule Setting of Speed Limits 2003; the approved temporary speed limit is only applied on the southbound, where the alleged offence was took on the northbound
my submissions are written and ready to be sent out, if you are interested, pm me.
cheers

Milan

Id suggest you don't make any contact with the police infringement bureau. You are providing them with details of your defence. The court is the right place to make your submission. Its an equal playing field there, and they don't get given the chance to think up evidence to support their case, if you haven't revealed your defence.

I have defended all my tickets over the years, and I don't even bother writing to the police except to deny the offence, and for disclosure.

[Scuba_Steve]

The court is the right place to make your submission. Its an equal playing field there,

what court are you going to??? I have yet to meet one of these "playing fields"

[milan24]

going to court of appeal in wellington, have been to the other two playing fields in akl, from my experience, i can tell you that the referee will turn a blind eye as much as possible! hopefully 3rd time lucky.

[Gremlin]

what court are you going to??? I have yet to meet one of these "playing fields"

From my experience JP's will mostly rubber stamp whatever the cops say, but judges are muuuch better, bollocking whoever screwed up.

[The Pastor]

from my experience, limited as it may be, I have concluded that it is a primary police tactic to waste the person defending the ticket's time as much as possible. The police's view (from the officer who gives the ticket) is this - 'I'm still getting paid to be here'. They have told me this themselves on every ticket i've defended, different cops in different areas.

No matter what happens, the cops always win.

and lawyers.

Just don't stop for tickets, if you own a sports bike (but remember to breathe!!!)

[davereid]

No matter what happens, the cops always win.

I think its the other way around.

Every time you defend a ticket, win or lose we all win.

Its all about meeting targets for performance. The cops simply cant meet them if they are in court all the time.

It only works for them if you take the ticket and pay it.

[The Pastor]

Ok heres a ticket i currently have. (Auckland transport, not the cops) BUSH LAWYERS UNITE!

This is the charge im charged with.

On Saturday 28 January 2012 at 8.20am on XXXX avenue, XXXX, IN THAT YOU, BEING THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF A MOTOR VEHICLE XXXX Operated a motor vehicle on a road when the current licence issued to the vehicle and appropriate for its use was not affixed to it in the manner prescribed. This is an offence against land transport (Motor Vehicle Registration & licensing) Regulations 2011 regulation 77(2)(b)(ii).

This was for my rego running out on my broken down truck i stored on the road (since towed it off the road!!).

Can I defend this as parking a vehicle is not operating it?

Edit, Just found this cool site which pretty much says im screwed. http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...p=1#DLM2938433

A person commits a stationary vehicle offence if the person operates a motor vehicle in contravention of section 242(1) of the Act by causing or permitting it to be on a road or driven on a road if the motor vehicle—

(a) is not registered and licensed in accordance with Part 17 of the Act; or

(b) does not have affixed to it and displayed in the manner prescribed by these regulations—

(i) the registration plates issued for it; and

[Usarka]

I Its all about meeting targets for performance. The cops simply cant meet them if they are in court all the time.

ACC's tactic for this (sorry for slight off topic) is take it to court, but if they know they are going to lose they bail out at the last minute.

That means that their "went to review but lost" stats don't look so bad, but they get to fuck over the people too stupid or stressed to fight them.

Cunts.

[Kiwibaconator]

Ok heres a ticket i currently have. (Auckland transport, not the cops) BUSH LAWYERS UNITE!

I think it was posted on this site that you should cover the vehicle and plates to prevent such a situation occuring. In your case, looks too late.

[caspernz]

I think its the other way around.

Every time you defend a ticket, win or lose we all win.

Its all about meeting targets for performance. The cops simply cant meet them if they are in court all the time.

It only works for them if you take the ticket and pay it.

Too right!!