Police target motorcyclists in another safety campaign

[Zedder]

I had a read over the Safer Journeys info and I'm happy that at least the authorities/cops are doing something to address the issues.

It's like the trial of written warnings and Rastuscat's options campaigns: They could have done nothing and carried on doing nothing but they didn't. Right or wrong, unlawfull (in some eyes) or whatever, it's something.

[mossy1200]

So this part "Liberty of the person
Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily arrested or detained." has been omitted from the bill of rights?

My comments wernt dirrected towards you but aimed to point out that people here seem to have 2 standards.We ride on a road we didnt personally build.Its was created by the collect revenue gained and is therefore shared by all so we have a responsibility to make every effort to keep others and ourselves as safe as possible.Due to the fact some people have less common sence than they should have we have rules that try to keep a standard.People who dont pay rego etc are stating the rules dont apply to them.If the rules dont apply i dont understand how these people expect to get insurance via ACC.
I dont have a issue with popo targeting bikes.Its not because I think a minority group should be singled out.Its because the few that boast its cheeper to put your rego on hold than pay registration are the first to make noise when they think it could cost them.People make comments about jandals and shorts as a popo wind up rather than say we should make an effort to lead by example and ride safe,be safe and act safe.

I watch idiots in bad gear cutting through traffic,speeding and disregarding other people.Almost every day a bike or scooter passes cars waiting to cross from Hataitai into the Mt Vic tunnel merging lane making cages fail to cross.These few that ride like they are the only road user that matters leave other road users resenting us.Popo do own their own vehicles.They share our road while not on duty and they notice what happens.If 5 % of motorcycles act up they are the 5% that get noticed and remembered.If we are singled out its because we stand out due to the behaviour of a few.Popo isnt after the rider that doesnt stand out.They are targeting the ones that dont and wont ride responsibly and wont or dont pay their share.

Drunk drivers are a minority but they are targets
Boys racers are a minority but they are targets
Truck drivers are a minority they get checked for loads and distance.
Motorcycles are a minority ...
Speeding drivers are a minority(we would hope).They are targets.
Cages are a majority but they still get random checks.

Just because we stood out as being unsafe due to a few or bad arse cause we didnt all want to pay rego doesnt meen we are all targets but doesnt it meen we should up our standards so we dont stand out.

[Nzpure]

The results the same though ain't it.

Your argument is invalid sir....
Its the difference between right and wrong.....
If a coppa came and turned your house over for no good reason you would be little pissed would you not? Mind you if your house was full of drugs you would be a little pissed also...but you get my point.
Its your right, Not to be detained at the whim of anyone. Being ok with having your rights abused for a little extra safety, removes your right to either. If you will roll over for the small stuff you will roll over for the big stuff.
Thats my point. Its because our (kiwi's) mindset that our government does what the hell it likes. There is no consequence for them, Without it they will continue on the path they are on. Which IMHO is a elected dictatorship, a little harsh i know but you get my drift.
Also like to point out if a coppa pulled me over for a random check i would do nothing but be the most courteous i could be. I do not envy the job they have to do some times, However i would be one if they didn't descriminate me for being colour blind =P

[Nzpure]

My comments wernt dirrected towards you but aimed to point out that people here seem to have 2 standards.We ride on a road we didnt personally build.Its was created by the collect revenue gained and is therefore shared by all so we have a responsibility to make every effort to keep others and ourselves as safe as possible.Due to the fact some people have less common sence than they should have we have rules that try to keep a standard.People who dont pay rego etc are stating the rules dont apply to them.If the rules dont apply i dont understand how these people expect to get insurance via ACC.
I dont have a issue with popo targeting bikes.Its not because I think a minority group should be singled out.Its because the few that boast its cheeper to put your rego on hold than pay registration are the first to make noise when they think it could cost them.People make comments about jandals and shorts as a popo wind up rather than say we should make an effort to lead by example and ride safe,be safe and act safe.

I watch idiots in bad gear cutting through traffic,speeding and disregarding other people.Almost every day a bike or scooter passes cars waiting to cross from Hataitai into the Mt Vic tunnel merging lane making cages fail to cross.These few that ride like they are the only road user that matters leave other road users resenting us.Popo do own their own vehicles.They share our road while not on duty and they notice what happens.If 5 % of motorcycles act up they are the 5% that get noticed and remembered.If we are singled out its because we stand out due to the behaviour of a few.Popo isnt after the rider that doesnt stand out.They are targeting the ones that dont and wont ride responsibly and wont or dont pay their share.

Drunk drivers are a minority but they are targets
Boys racers are a minority but they are targets
Truck drivers are a minority they get checked for loads and distance.
Motorcycles are a minority ...
Speeding drivers are a minority(we would hope).They are targets.
Cages are a majority but they still get random checks.

Just because we stood out as being unsafe due to a few or bad arse cause we didnt all want to pay rego doesnt meen we are all targets but doesnt it meen we should up our standards so we dont stand out.

Very true, However i do believe its a breach of our rights...Not going to change anything however and a cop will never find me being a smart arse or disrespectful.

[bsasuper]

Pointless thread, the POPO are ALWAYS targeting us.

[FJRider]

Pointless thread, the POPO are ALWAYS targeting us.

Speed up then ... it will ruin their aim ...

[tigertim20]

Just had a visit from a local Constable informing me of a local/nation wide campaign targeting motorcyclist safety compliance. Licence, rego, WOF, correct gear etc etc.

Aiming at the commuter riders is the impression I got, he and other officers will be targeting high traffic areas around Wellington, Hutt Valley for the next month.

You might get a free muslie bar and a pen that doesn't work and a photo of StoneY on his KTM if you're good.

Seemed like a nice enough chap and bloody good of him to let us know what was happening so we could pass the message on I thought.

It so nice of them that I will kindly throatfuck any cunt who pulls me over for no reason other than im on a bike until his eyes swell.
Blatant fucking bullshit.

how about spending the next fucking month sitting at intersections with the new rule changes and doing something useful to prevent accidents to ALL fucking road users?

[scumdog]

Pointless thread, the POPO are ALWAYS targeting us.

Boy, do I have issues then!

I ride, I'm popo, oh the turmoil...

[mossy1200]

Very true, However i do believe its a breach of our rights...Not going to change anything however and a cop will never find me being a smart arse or disrespectful.

To me its more about the removal of those that dont respect a standard that we should set for ourselves rather than be told how to act.
If it costs me 5 mins to get licence and rego checked etc and 100 other bikers checked also to have someone change their actions be it wear safer gear,replace worn tire or so on in order to ensure the idiot doesnt kill your wife,son or friend then ill wave my rights for that 5mins.

If you thought it might help would you?
If you dont think it could is it wrong of me to hope it might and accept it?

[tri boy]

Ive saved over $1500 since Nick the Dick hiked the rego/ACC fees.
Comute on the XR/Scram/Bandit, or KLE alot.

Don't give a rats arse about rego anymore, but keep the bikes well maintained and safe.

Don't give a rats arse about riders that think i'm a twat for taking this approach.
All I know is $1500 of my pingers never reached the pollies slush fund.

PS Gareth Morgan is a weak as piss arse lick,that has done Nothing to advance rider safety, or anything useful since he climbed on Nicks Sweaty back.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Your argument is invalid sir....
Its the difference between right and wrong.....

Whilst I hear ya, and understand your point...mine is I don't sweat things like traffic lights or random pull overs. A couple of mins of my time ain't worth getting my panties in a bunch over.

So that's my argument. And as far as I'm concerned...it's actually 100% factual. 2 mins at a set of lights...or on the side of the road. Don't care.

And as far as I'm concerned...a police officer should be able to pull anyone, anytime, over at their descretion. If they decide on the spot to ram a batton up your arse then I'll have 'issues'!

Specially if they don't kiss me first.

[mossy1200]

Ive saved over $1500 since Nick the Dick hiked the rego/ACC fees.
Comute on the XR/Scram/Bandit, or KLE alot.

Don't give a rats arse about rego anymore, but keep the bikes well maintained and safe.

Don't give a rats arse about riders that think i'm a twat for taking this approach.
All I know is $1500 of my pingers never reached the pollies slush fund.

PS Gareth Morgan is a weak as piss arse lick,that has done Nothing to advance rider safety, or anything useful since he climbed on Nicks Sweaty back.

hey I feel for multi bikes multi rego and I think registration should be done by licence and warrent should only be obtained by licenced rider.Get challenged prove licenced and registered rider.After all we cant ride more than one at a time but we can clock the same total kms as a multi bike owner on just one bike.
The issue is if you have accident costing 25k in hospital fees others have paid into the kitty and you havent.

If you could pay one acc road user fee would that make you happy?
Idd own more bikes if i could pay one collective registration even if some were just cheaper bikes.
multi rego is preventing me from having more

[Brian d marge]

Tired cant think, but in a nut shell

rego , not a safety item ,pays for health?? and roads? and big AA lunches

WOF , yes need

bad driving , educate , forced education , beat senseless fine, shankes poney ( in that order)

drinking driving and stupidity, wall and bullet in head

Jandals , and other acts of sheer stupidity , see above.


bad taste in motorcycles , see stupidity

I think we all agree , we would like the old bill to Help and worK WITH us , rather than ping us on an open stretch of road , at the insane speed of 104 kmph,,,,, the extra energy in those extra 4 kms must be HUGE .for it to be such a concern


Stephen

[Maha]

My bike is registered. The vehicle license is expired so they could still gather revenue from me.

Bless...you figured it out..

[sondela]

A little off the subject here, but I saw one of Chch's bike cops Lights on, pull over a bicyclist and ticket him today. Must say, said cyclist looked very unhappy indeed (heh) Anyone know what cyclists get ticketed for? I thought they were immune....