Police target motorcyclists in another safety campaign

[Deano]

Hence why im going to Uni next year! Im gunna get all clued up in civil law and rights and i will!

I sincerely hope you do and this is not just another keyboard rant. Good luck with the study

[Berries]

Until they change the law, any clothes that make you decent are appropriate.

Oh well, that's the hotpants idea fucked then.

[mossy1200]

Hence why im going to Uni next year! Im gunna get all clued up in civil law and rights and i will!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTd47...eature=related

[BoristheBiter]

Now then Maha, this is something that I entirely agree with. If I am riding along minding my own business then Mr Plod HAS NO RIGHT TO STOP ME, other than of course, the right given him/her by the gubbermint when they decided it was time to give our beloved Police Force the right to stop and interrogate at will.
never used to be this way and they managed just fine.
Sorry Mate, but the old "if you have nothing to hide then you've nothing to fear" attitude is just plain bloody wrong.
Where do we draw the line at intervention Policing??

Very true, However i do believe its a breach of our rights...Not going to change anything however and a cop will never find me being a smart arse or disrespectful.

When you get your licence you sign it and agree to the conditions, of which there is this

Drivers and other road users to comply with directions of enforcement officers, etc
(1AA) A person driving a motor vehicle that has a warning notice given under section 22AF attached to it must comply with that notice.
(1) A person must comply with sections 68, 69, 70, 71A, 72, and 73 (which relate to the administration of breath screening tests, evidential breath tests, and blood tests).
(2) A person must comply with all lawful requirements, directions, and requests made by an enforcement officer under any of sections 68, 69, 70, 71A, 72, and 73.
(3) A person must comply with all lawful requirements and requests made by a medical practitioner or medical officer under section 72 or section 73 (which relate to the administration of blood tests).
(4) A person may not—
(a) remove, obscure, or render indistinguishable a notice affixed to a vehicle under section 115, unless current evidence of vehicle inspection has been obtained for the vehicle or (if the notice was given under section 96(1B)) the direction requiring the vehicle not to be driven on a road has been cancelled under section 102(3)(b) or section 110(3)(a)(ii); or
(b) drive a vehicle to which a notice given under section 115 applies until current evidence of vehicle inspection has been obtained for, and is displayed on, the vehicle.
(5) Drivers and other persons must comply with all other lawful requirements, directions, notices, and requests given to, and prohibitions imposed on, them under this Act by an enforcement officer or a dangerous goods enforcement officer.

It is not a right to have a licence and if you don't like the rules then don't ride/drive.

[BoristheBiter]

This is the exact bullshit that is used to justify them progressively removing our rights.

A fundamental of our justice system used to be innocent until proven guilty - stopping us when we have done nothing wrong is fundamentally wrong and stop trying to justify this breech of what used to be our rights by a bullshit statement like this.

see above, you have no right to be on the road.

[Parlane]

Well I didn't get a muesli bar Cops were out on the beat this morning in riccarton, I saw two seperate groups. Met the second. May have been rastuscat, described himself as a motorcycle enthusiast.

[Zedder]

Well I didn't get a muesli bar Cops were out on the beat this morning in riccarton, I saw two seperate groups. Met the second. May have been rastuscat, described himself as a motorcycle enthusiast.

So how was the interaction?

[Paul in NZ]

How dare they - seriously how fucking dare they offer me a free muesli bar and some road safety advice when I fucking know everything lol

They are going to get a shock if they offer me a muesil bar. I'll sue them for assault with a deadly weapon.... Being a type 1 diabetic, coeliac and on an IC diet muesil bars are sticks of sugary bowel shredding death I tells ya - may as well offer me a couple of shots of moonshine and a smoke...

[Parlane]

So how was the interaction?

Basically was just to tell me off for coming around a corner too fast, which was true. And then looked deeply in to my eyes (looking for contacts). Told me he was just being a flea in my ear (so just a warning) and that I chose the vehicle so I have to get the contacts (glasses fog up).

All in all, not too bad. He could have done me for $400 for not wearing my glasses + 35 demerits :\

Before you start keeping your kids at home, I can see fine. Just not street sign letters from far away.

[Maha]

They are going to get a shock if they offer me a muesil bar. I'll sue them for assault with a deadly weapon.... Being a type 1 diabetic, coeliac and on an IC diet muesil bars are sticks of sugary bowel shredding death I tells ya - may as well offer me a couple of shots of moonshine and a smoke...

It could be a tazer disguised as a Muesli bar...
Better do as they say Paul.

[davereid]

see above, you have no right to be on the road.

I guess thats the point.

You don't actually "sign up" to anything. You have to do as the crown decides.

The Crown has at various times made it illegal for slaves to escape, for maori to breast feed and for irish to dance. Its been illegal to be in a union, and its been illegal not to be in one.

History has shown us that if we are not breaking the law we have nothing to fear but the law itself.


The protections of mechanisms like the Bill of Rights exist because they are intended to ensure the law need not be feared, as it may not cross certain lines, even for very good reasons.

We have abandoned many of those principles in Transport Law. The right to remain silent, the presumption of innocence, the right to a trial, and the right to go about your business without search and seizure have all been abandoned to make us safer on the road.

And we have already watched police abusing the privilege, bragging for example about how they stopped the Hells Angels 6 times "randomly" on one run in Nelson a year or so back.

I for one don't approve. As soon as given the power to abuse, police took it.

Its my opinion, that the road toll would be little different if police had to have due cause to stop drivers, but we would still have a Bill of Rights thats is not eroded.

[5150]

They are going to get a shock if they offer me a muesil bar. I'll sue them for assault with a deadly weapon.... Being a type 1 diabetic, coeliac and on an IC diet muesil bars are sticks of sugary bowel shredding death I tells ya - may as well offer me a couple of shots of moonshine and a smoke...

How about a shot of Tazer and a pepper spray?

[willytheekid]

Basically was just to tell me off for coming around a corner too fast, which was true. And then looked deeply in to my eyes (looking for contacts). Told me he was just being a flea in my ear (so just a warning) and that I chose the vehicle so I have to get the contacts (glasses fog up).

All in all, not too bad. He could have done me for $400 for not wearing my glasses + 35 demerits :\

Before you start keeping your kids at home, I can see fine. Just not street sign letters from far away.

I thought I saw you this morning!...nice of that lady to help you afterwards

...I didnt get stopped because I can behave myself ...well, that and the new bike/truck dosn't go around corners fast...or even slowly!

[Paul in NZ]

It could be a tazer disguised as a Muesli bar...
Better do as they say Paul.

Quite honestly it would be healthier for me to take the tazer shot Besides I'm not going to go all Tame Iti on them... On the few times I've been pulled over its always because I was doing something stupid in a stupid place OR to have a safety chat which has usually been pleasant, worthwhile and friendly..... But then I'm a friendly chap really

[Scuba_Steve]

They can't get done for no rego/WOF. everything else ... DIC/speeding/failing to give way/running a red ... and they are certainly not immune.

And you can lose your licence on a treadly ...

there's no such thing as DIC in NZ for deadly pedley's & the speeding one, in most circumstances can be hard to achieve

Until they change the law, any clothes that make you decent are appropriate. All you required to wear is helmet and underwear.....speedo's even.

Underwear is actually optional, helmet is your only legal requirement & lets keep it that way or less.