Police target motorcyclists in another safety campaign

[Eyegasm]

Sorry KM, it was more a statement in people thinking that because ACC hass all this money that they think they have enough to cover everything. Unfortunately due to forecasting this is not entirely true.

[AD345]

Fair call do what you want .

You too my friend

I always like to hear the other point of view - always.

That's the bit that makes life interesting

[SMOKEU]

I prefer to protect myself by NOT FALLING OFF

While that may work well in theory, it doesn't appear to work as well in practice.

It's not just n00bs on sports bikes with more money than sense who end up having serious crashes.

[Berries]

Your all loud online but your prob a yes sir when popo pull you up.

Loud? Just trying to have a discussion but it is hard with people who use the word popo. My three year old does that when he is having a shit.

you fight your fight and ill ride it my way and give up 5mins if need be to do my share if required for the good of removing tards from the roads or trying to re-educate them.

I don't have a fight to fight and never said I had a problem with being stopped. But if me getting pulled over for five minutes re-educates other people I am all for it. Hey, lets make it ten minutes and re-educate twice as many.

Idd rather think for myself.Seeing as i have been down at speed 2 times.One of those wearing race leathers in the shoulder down to plastic shoulder guards after destroying 2 1.4mm leather layers idd say idd be minus flesh bone and muscle.In my mind im convinced the human body wasnt designed to go very fast so its best I give it as much protection as possible.

And you are having a go at people who don't crash? I'd rather think for myself as well thank you, if that is allowed in your world.

[Katman]

While that may work well in theory, it doesn't appear to work as well in practice.

Only for those too lazy to put the theory into practice.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yup, guaranteeing that the event in caps above will always be the case cannot be done...

Hey KM says it can be done...

I agree with everything you have said except for this part.

Maybe you should come and work for ACC and realise how the funding is allocated?

By the way, I actually do work for ACC and now how the funding is allocated. I am not saying there is enough money to cover the coffers.
But just not enough to cover the above statement.

Something like 60% lawyers, 30% CEO/management & 10% actual ACC isn't it???

[Zedder]

Hey KM says it can be done...



Something like 60% lawyers, 30% CEO/management & 10% actual ACC isn't it???

Don't forget the financial sector, there's $11 billion to invest.

[oneofsix]

Hey KM says it can be done...

Scumdog must just be too lazy. After all it is always all up to the rider, there are no external influences. Who do you believe, a self appointed expert or someone that has probably attended more than enough events.

[Zedder]

Scumdog must just be too lazy. After all it is always all up to the rider, there are no external influences. Who do you believe, a self appointed expert or someone that has probably attended more than enough events.

Scumdog for ACC Minister!

[Katman]

Scumdog must just be too lazy. After all it is always all up to the rider, there are no external influences. Who do you believe, a self appointed expert or someone that has probably attended more than enough events.

Spoken like a true perpetual victim.

[MSTRS:Me]

...the human body wasnt designed to go very fast...

Slight correction. The human body wasn't designed to change speeds rapidly.

I prefer to protect myself by NOT FALLING OFF

Good aim...
There's something about things (not) being written in stone. The tablets on Mt Sinai are working well...

The only problem I have is that you keep trying to tell me what to do

Somebody has to...
Like it or not, with the wonderful new National-model ACC, individual's choices impact financially on the group.

[Tigadee]

There's something about things (not) being written in stone. The tablets on Mt Sinai are working well...

[baffa]

Wow. 15 pages of crap. Nzpure, I dont think you have the mental faculties to use public roads.
Police target different groups all the time. I do think however, they need to target motorbikers, because break the law more than most.
Yes, the ACC levies are a bit high, but what gives you the right to not pay when the rest of us do? If a large chunk of bikers dont pay their rego, then the govt will simply increase them, and crack down harder on everyone.

I try to pull over when I see bikers on the side of the road needing help. From now on those of you who rock around with no rego, or in shorts and jandals, will get the fingers as I ride off.
Justify it all you like, you're being bigger douchbags than whiny Nick.

[Maha]

I do accept there is a reason this is happening. Rego, warrant and licence check is one thing and I don't have a problem with that considering the number of unlicenced and disqualified riders out there. I just don't accept that it is then the job of the Police to inform me that my laces are undone or they don't like the colour of my helmet, particularly when it is unlikely that the guy will have as much riding experience as I have. I also don't accept it when people who make their own risk assessment as to what they should wear on any given ride give advice to people who make their own risk assessment which may differ. ATGATT is relative. Unless you are wearing an airbag suit, airbag helmet, neckbrace, back protector etc etc etc you are not ATGATT. So stop preaching.

That's the royal 'you' by the way, not you specifically.

Wow. 15 pages of crap. Nzpure, I dont think you have the mental faculties to use public roads.
Police target different groups all the time. I do think however, they need to target motorbikers, because break the law more than most.
Yes, the ACC levies are a bit high, but what gives you the right to not pay when the rest of us do? If a large chunk of bikers dont pay their rego, then the govt will simply increase them, and crack down harder on everyone.

I try to pull over when I see bikers on the side of the road needing help. From now on those of you who rock around with no rego, or in shorts and jandals, will get the fingers as I ride off.
Justify it all you like, you're being bigger douchbags than whiny Nick.

Not all crap baffa...that post by berries is very reasonable and well worded, in a way, it sums up the question put to everyone extremely well in my opinion.

[baffa]

Not all crap baffa...that post by berries is very reasonable and well worded, in a way, it sums up the question put to everyone extremely well in my opinion.

Perhaps not all crap, but after reading almost the entire thread in one sitting makes you start to think that all bikers do is break the law and whine about being caught