Do you know give way rules changing on 25 March? Give way rule quiz

[FJRider]

Good call Keith!

But nobody can say they didn't know the rules were changing ...


And say hi to Ducky for me. I hear she's heading your way today.

[oneofsix]

But nobody can say they didn't know the rules were changing ...
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I actually heard someone say that recently. Scared the B-jesus out of me but it appears they had been too busy with downloaded media and had therefore missed all the fuss. You already know car drivers don't care as much about the rules as motorcyclists.
Another one that scares me is those that try to apply the changes to round abouts. They have heard the give way to the right rule is changing and as they have been taught to give way to the right at round abouts figure it too is changing.

[Scuba_Steve]

I actually heard someone say that recently. Scared the B-jesus out of me but it appears they had been too busy with downloaded media and had therefore missed all the fuss. You already know car drivers don't care as much about the rules as motorcyclists.
Another one that scares me is those that try to apply the changes to round abouts. They have heard the give way to the right rule is changing and as they have been taught to give way to the right at round abouts figure it too is changing.

I think the biggest confusional ones will be those where the councils decided to place a small different coloured non-raised circle patch in the middle to make a 4-way intersection a round-a-bout (yet was never big enough to support 1) to further create the lowest denominator. This will be the time where people look at it and go "what do I do?, the rules have changed so it must be reversed right?"

[steve_t]

Where I think the issues will come, are the edge cases. The advertising is hitting the specific changes hard, but they don't seem to say much about combined situations.

Pic 1: C would have to give way to A, but A has to give way to B. So while B goes 'round the corner will/can C just go? I bet there will be cases where people will get confused, and the wrong two will go, leading to dings.

1 both green have right of way = B has right of way, now if A is not over the lane stopping C, I would go if I sore indecision in A, other wise sit a wight as A has right of way

I'm gonna disagree with you here Shrek. I think B will turn, then A and finally C will go.

Again, to try and avoid confusion with + intersections etc, they ads are clearly stressing that 'Only 2 rules are changing': The left turner getting the right of way over the right turner and the uncontrolled T intersection. All others stay the same.

[Badjelly]

Where I think the issues will come, are the edge cases. The advertising is hitting the specific changes hard, but they don't seem to say much about combined situations.

Pic 1: C would have to give way to A, but A has to give way to B. So while B goes 'round the corner will/can C just go? I bet there will be cases where people will get confused, and the wrong two will go, leading to dings.

Pic 2: People are used to position-based rules ("give way to your right") and the new situation-based rule ("Top of the T goes before me") changes that. On the four-way uncontrolled intersections - will people apply the new positional rule? I bet there will be cases where both blue cars go...

Pic 1: you're right, and it will take a while before people work out how to handle this situation, but they will. It's pretty common (not legal, but common) for A in this situation to move far enough forward that C can't get out of the side road. I expect C will just decide in most cases to wait until everything's gone.

"Top of the T goes before me" is a new rule in a legal sense, but it's the rule that 80% of the driving population has been following for the last 30 years regardless. I really don't expect this change to cause any problem at all. And it will save me (and you, I'm sure) from the burden of being in the minority 20%!

Pic 2: Yeah, 4-way uncontrolled intersections are a bugger in NZ, for straight-ahead traffic as well as turning traffic. This won't change much.

[_Shrek_]

I would go if I sore indecision in A, other wise sit & wait as A has right of way

2 green has right of way = the + means right hand rule applies!!! this has not changed

I'm gonna disagree with you here Shrek. I think B will turn, then A and finally C will go.

Again, to try and avoid confusion with + intersections etc, they ads are clearly stressing that 'Only 2 rules are changing': The left turner getting the right of way over the right turner and the uncontrolled T intersection. All others stay the same.

read what I said steve not sure why you disagree?

[Usarka]

But nobody can say they didn't know the rules were changing ...

Really? I haven't heard anything about this apart from KB.

But I watch bugger all TV and don't read newspapers. I'm far from the only person like that.

[_Shrek_]

Really? I haven't heard anything about this apart from KB.

But I watch bugger all TV and don't read newspapers. I'm far from the only person like that.

+1 here!! we don't have TV or get the paper. we have the net & this for our updates

[FJRider]

Really? I haven't heard anything about this apart from KB.

But I watch bugger all TV and don't read newspapers. I'm far from the only person like that.

There are notices in shop windows, in public places, Pamflets were delivered to EVERY mailbox, on the news (radio and tv) in most of the ways the "speed tolerance" is advertised (everybody knows about that)... only the un-observant would not see or hear about it. And considering the amount of time since the warnings of the change started ... You would need to be thick (or just plain ignorant) to miss them.

But the funny part is ... ignorance of the laws (even the new ones) is no excuse if you are stopped by the enforcers ...

I think the police may need to carry a few extra boxes of tissues ... for the ones that will cry when they get stopped ... for not giving way.

[steve_t]

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read what I said steve not sure why you disagree?

Oh, yup. LOL. You were kinda right. I was just disagreeing with the first part where you said both green cars had the right of way

[Usarka]

There are notices in shop windows, in public places, Pamflets were delivered to EVERY mailbox, on the news (radio and tv) in most of the ways the "speed tolerance" is advertised (everybody knows about that)... only the un-observant would not see or hear about it. And considering the amount of time since the warnings of the change started ... You would need to be thick (or just plain ignorant) to miss them.

But the funny part is ... ignorance of the laws (even the new ones) is no excuse if you are stopped by the enforcers ...

I think the police may need to carry a few extra boxes of tissues ... for the ones that will cry when they get stopped ... for not giving way.

Well at least one point is bullshit, I haven't received anything in my mailbox. I'll assume the rest is gobshite too.

[FJRider]

... I'll assume the rest is gobshite too.

Assumptions dont save your ass if you get stopped for failing to give way.

I would say the enforcers will be watching for give way issues a lot more closely next week. Good luck ...

[FJRider]

I haven't received anything in my mailbox.

Having NO friends ... does that

By the way ... part of the very large goverment funded campaign in public information on this subject was a mail drop of a pamflet (that is looks like any other glossy advertising pamflet) to each mail box. So if you didn't get one (oh dear how sad) see your mail deliverer ... and cry to them.

Even if you didn't get one ... ignorance of the changes is no defence if you get caught failing to give way. Your post indicates you are half guilty already ...

Perhaps you better put a box of tissues in your hand-bag ... just in case .... you seem like the sort of person that will need it.

[release_the_bees]

Just sent the below email out to the office. That's 100 people with no excuse for breaking the rules come Sunday:

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Hi all,

Just a quick reminder that two of the give way rules are changing at 5am on Sunday morning (March 25):

• If you want a final (and fun) check that you understand the new rules correctly, you can do so using THIS interactive test.
• If you want more information about the actual changes, you can find this information HERE.

Thanks for taking the time to read this.

Regards,

release_the_bees

[Badjelly]

Having NO friends ... does that

By the way ... part of the very large goverment funded campaign in public information on this subject was a mail drop of a pamflet (that is looks like any other glossy advertising pamflet) to each mail box. So if you didn't get one (oh dear how sad) see your mail deliverer ... and cry to them.

Even if you didn't get one ... ignorance of the changes is no defence if you get caught failing to give way. Your post indicates you are half guilty already ...

Perhaps you better put a box of tissues in your hand-bag ... just in case .... you seem like the sort of person that will need it.

FFS FJRider, the only one who needs a box of tissues is you. Usarka said he hadn't heard or read about the changes except on KB and (later) that he hadn't got the pamphlet in the mailbox. I (along with Usarka, I'm sure) was well aware of the new rules long before the public information campaign began, but most of the advertising passed me by and I didn't get anything in the mailbox either. (My letterbox is up a long driveway. A lot of the people who deliver pamphlets don't bother. Whatever.)