You reap what you sow, or Karma?

**Edbear** · 25th March 2012, 20:10

Originally Posted by FJRider

All too often ... the decision choice and responsibility is not ours to make. A left turn at an intersection, instead of a right turn ... may mean we live ... or die.

A bit like "Sliding Doors" you mean?

**Ocean1** · 25th March 2012, 20:10

Originally Posted by rainman

Doesn't add that much value, though, to us in reality - does it?

It's more like intellectual wankery, in fact.

Of which the issue can get a little obnoxious at times.

**Zedder** · 25th March 2012, 20:11

Originally Posted by rainman

Doesn't add that much value, though, to us in reality - does it?

It's more like intellectual wankery, in fact.

That's why it's been called the bankrupt philosophy.

**blackdog** · 25th March 2012, 20:36

Originally Posted by Edbear

We all suffer the ills and spills of life and also can be victims of circumstances undeserved.

Really? Feminine hygiene is aisle 7. I think your Prius is double parked.

**avgas** · 26th March 2012, 10:14

Originally Posted by rainman

Wotcha on about, dude? Who is this cruel mistress? Some kind of cosmic being, maybe a goddess?

She is the line between yin and yang
She is the surface of the water
She is the force behind the motive

Falun Gong/Bhudism..... have been around as long as Sanskrit also. So you might not want to take one version and say it is law. Fact of the matter is there are multiple version of Karma - not simply the 'action one' which originated from India.

Tomato Tomaeto - while in modern days we can give the same term to multiple meanings (thanks to English), so while the word "Karma" comes from India, the term seems to be applied to multiple versions. Either action, reaction or the balance of both.

This was typed on a personal computer, which is also a Laptop, which is also a Notebook. But technically speaking a notebook is a small book you write notes in with a pen.......you see where I am going with this.

**nodrog:Me** · 26th March 2012, 10:34

**thecharmed01** · 26th March 2012, 10:36

Originally Posted by Nasty

I believe that just cos we can't see it .. doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I have to agree, I feel that to some degree there is a karma of sorts. And I think when bad things happen to good people, the cause of the bad will find that one day, something bad will happen to them.
When I see people treat others badly, I sit back and wait, because I figure karma will get them eventually and sometimes people who don't believe it, just haven't been patient enough or they aren't close enough to the person to know what's going on. So they don't see that persons 'bad stuff' so they will never know that in fact, they did get their butt kicked by karma.

I dunno if that made sense to anyone but me upon reading it back. Maybe I shouldn't post concussed LOL

**Edbear** · 26th March 2012, 10:42

Originally Posted by thecharmed01

I have to agree, I feel that to some degree there is a karma of sorts. And I think when bad things happen to good people, the cause of the bad will find that one day, something bad will happen to them.
When I see people treat others badly, I sit back and wait, because I figure karma will get them eventually and sometimes people who don't believe it, just haven't been patient enough or they aren't close enough to the person to know what's going on. So they don't see that persons 'bad stuff' so they will never know that in fact, they did get their butt kicked by karma.

I dunno if that made sense to anyone but me upon reading it back. Maybe I shouldn't post concussed LOL

Yeah, I don't recommend concussion...

**thecharmed01** · 26th March 2012, 10:47

Originally Posted by Edbear

Yeah, I don't recommend concussion...

me either.... it makes more sense in my head

**Paul in NZ** · 26th March 2012, 11:47

Originally Posted by Edbear

Possibly right. When we get clobbered by circumstance, be it illness, accident or some other misfortune, we have two choices; give up and wallow in our misery or pick ourselves up and make the best of things.

Well to be fair we are genetically programmed to ,ake the best of things - its humanities evolutionary ace in the hole...

Originally Posted by Edbear

On KB we see for ourselves the amazing courage and fortitude of people who have fought their adversity and made the best they could of their lives even when given the worst prognosis.

I just watched an interview with Michael J. Fox who does not regret contracting Parkinson's disease due to the direction and purpose it has given him in his life. Replacing the false life of movie stardom with reality and resulting in a more rewarding life.

For myself, although I have a medical history filled with pain and suffering, of disability and near death, I believe I would not be the man I am today without going through those experiences. My accident in May 2010 was the best thing that could have happened in the way it changed my life despite the ongoing pain and disability I now live with.

They say, "That which does not kill us serves to make us stronger." and as we look around we see many examples of this.

Look I see what you are saying but the truth is that no one is actually offering people like Michael J Fox an actually choice - its a theoretical one. I can say (for instance) that I now have a much greater interest in my physical health and well being that I ever did before I started getting sick and I may well live longer than I would have when I was abusing my body (unrelated btw) But how do I know I wouldn't have changed just like any other 20 year old? If someone gave me a creditable choice to solve all my shitty issues I would jump at the chance. I hate all this shit with a passion.....

And getting back to the Karma concept. Do I deserve any of this? No - I don't think I do because (to the best of my knowledge) I've never been a bad or evil person... Do I feel I've been punished for something? No of course not.

Success is part effort, part knowledge and part luck and good luck in defining success of good fortune. It varies.

**Edbear** · 26th March 2012, 12:07

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Well to be fair we are genetically programmed to ,ake the best of things - its humanities evolutionary ace in the hole...

Look I see what you are saying but the truth is that no one is actually offering people like Michael J Fox an actually choice - its a theoretical one. I can say (for instance) that I now have a much greater interest in my physical health and well being that I ever did before I started getting sick and I may well live longer than I would have when I was abusing my body (unrelated btw) But how do I know I wouldn't have changed just like any other 20 year old? If someone gave me a creditable choice to solve all my shitty issues I would jump at the chance. I hate all this shit with a passion.....

And getting back to the Karma concept. Do I deserve any of this? No - I don't think I do because (to the best of my knowledge) I've never been a bad or evil person... Do I feel I've been punished for something? No of course not.

Success is part effort, part knowledge and part luck and good luck in defining success of good fortune. It varies.

You're right of course. Life happens and we cope with it if adverse and enjoy it if it goes well. I guess it depends a lot on whether we are the "Glass half full..." type; the positive personality or the negative.