Goodbye England. Been nice knowing ya

[mashman]

The french are actually attacking women for wearing the veils publicly Mash so it's not a token.

I know mate... that's why I think they're going backwards... and there was the Iraqi woman beaten to death on the US with a note left behind telling her that she was a terrorist and should get out of the country. Strange as they killed her. Either way making no veil law is still a token... tis a shame that the consequences are all too real, but that's to be expected when the only way cuntry's react is to ban ban ban.

[mashman]

So you can either bury your head in the sand and pretend everything will be fine, or like me you can train hard now in order to fight easy later.

What's wrong with converting?

[Zedder]

What's wrong with converting?

Insha Allah.

[mashman]

Insha Allah.

As-Salami A lay cum

[Woodman]

Who really gives a shit if they say that we will burn in hell? There is no such fucken place.

Its like when a complete fucktard calls you a complete fucktard, its actually a complement.

[jimbo600]

What's wrong with converting?

I don't believe in a society that issues compliance and intolerance based on a fairy tale.

[mashman]

I don't believe in a society that issues compliance and intolerance based on a fairy tale.

bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa... do you see any irony in your statement at all?

[jimbo600]

bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa... do you see any irony in your statement at all?

No.

Are you suggesting that Islam is fundamentally sound, has scientific merit, and conversion is worthy?

Maybe I should give it a go. I have some spare time this afternoon to stone a homosexual, or a women because she is working or going to university.

[mashman]

No.

Oh dear.

Are you suggesting that Islam is fundamentally sound, has scientific merit, and conversion is worthy?

Maybe I should give it a go. I have some spare time this afternoon to stone a homosexual, or a women because she is working or going to university.

Yes. WTF does scientific merit have to do with anything? Not for me, but plenty of people do "convert".

Oh dear, been reading a little too much propoganda have you. Mind you I suppose fanatics need to "know" their polar opposites, thems with no shades of grey. It wasn't that long ago that whitey was a slave trader, by far worse than Islam. In the meantime, a little lite reading to drag your kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

[jimbo600]

Oh dear.



Yes. WTF does scientific merit have to do with anything? Not for me, but plenty of people do "convert".

Oh dear, been reading a little too much propoganda have you. Mind you I suppose fanatics need to "know" their polar opposites, thems with no shades of grey. It wasn't that long ago that whitey was a slave trader, by far worse than Islam. In the meantime, a little lite reading to drag your kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

Maybe you could read all this thread again then. In the initial post the people in the video were espousing sharia law for the UK. Do you disagree? Its was even written on big billboards. Look again if you missed it. Now does not sharia law purport punishment for the 'crimes' I mention earlier?

I am in the 21st century pal. And so are they, however they want to drag us back to the Ottoman empire days.

Since you love wikipedia so much

"Homosexuality
Main article: Homosexuality and Islam
Homosexual activity is illegal under sharia, though the prescribed penalties differ from one school of jurisprudence to another. For example, these Muslim-majority countries may impose the death penalty for acts perceived as sodomy and homosexual activities: Iran,[189] Nigeria,[190] Saudi Arabia,[191] Somalia.[192]"

And http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18...ity-raped-girl

Yep what a religion. Top folk.

[mashman]

something about gay people Producing Otters from Men

Read it again, are you mad, oh hang on hmmmm... to what end? To reconfirm that Sharia law isn't going to be integrated into UK law until the majority of the population votes for it? To see a few billboards that are asking people to convert to Islam instead of some other group of invisible people worshippers that believe in something that may not exist? Shall we list out the faults of each religion and kill anyone who says they belong to that group? Or deport people born in that country because they have a certain faith? Once you're done with that, praps you can start in with the racial prejudice you probably have too... then where? I know, women, bitches be gettin too big for their boots these days. It wasn't that long ago that women were second class citizens in the civilised Western world. I doubt Muslims will stop stoning women for working or going to Uni or anything like that... noe I'm sure I've seen a link around here that said that didn;t happen .

You may physically be in the 21st Century my friend, but your attitude seems to be stuck in the early 20th... Praps a lightly wider gaze is called for?

Tarring every member of a group with the same brush really doesn't help things and achually makes things much worse than they already are... yet here you are and in the red corner, or would Islam be blue, certainly not pink, maybe green as they're obviously backwards, nooooo let's call them black, yeaaaaahhhhhhh BLACK, that seems to get a few pulses racing.

[Paul in NZ]

No.

Are you suggesting that Islam is fundamentally sound, has scientific merit, and conversion is worthy?

Maybe I should give it a go. I have some spare time this afternoon to stone a homosexual, or a women because she is working or going to university.

Moderate Islams not like that. Its a younger religion than Christianity and still has not got all the rough bits knocked off yet.

Besides, Britain executed a war hero for being Gay as recently as the 50's and womens lib is still pretty recent really. There are loads of hardcore christians that would do worse if in power.

Islam or not - its crazy power hungry idiots that are the problem

[short-circuit]

Moderate Islams not like that. Its a younger religion than Christianity and still has not got all the rough bits knocked off yet.

Besides, Britain executed a war hero for being Gay as recently as the 50's and womens lib is still pretty recent really. There are loads of hardcore christians that would do worse if in power.

Islam or not - its crazy power hungry idiots that are the problem

No you're not doing it right. It's supposed to go like this...

etc...

Hysteria fail.

[jimbo600]

Read it again, are you mad, oh hang on hmmmm... to what end? To reconfirm that Sharia law isn't going to be integrated into UK law until the majority of the population votes for it? To see a few billboards that are asking people to convert to Islam instead of some other group of invisible people worshippers that believe in something that may not exist? Shall we list out the faults of each religion and kill anyone who says they belong to that group? Or deport people born in that country because they have a certain faith? Once you're done with that, praps you can start in with the racial prejudice you probably have too... then where? I know, women, bitches be gettin too big for their boots these days. It wasn't that long ago that women were second class citizens in the civilised Western world. I doubt Muslims will stop stoning women for working or going to Uni or anything like that... noe I'm sure I've seen a link around here that said that didn;t happen .

You may physically be in the 21st Century my friend, but your attitude seems to be stuck in the early 20th... Praps a lightly wider gaze is called for?

Tarring every member of a group with the same brush really doesn't help things and achually makes things much worse than they already are... yet here you are and in the red corner, or would Islam be blue, certainly not pink, maybe green as they're obviously backwards, nooooo let's call them black, yeaaaaahhhhhhh BLACK, that seems to get a few pulses racing.

I was wondering when you pull out the racist card. Although this has nothing to do with race. No i'm not a racist, bigot, or a homophobe. I am, however, vehemently against those who would supplant established doctrine with a fundamentalist structure based on a fantasy.

Furthermore i am not particularly against islam either. Moderate islamists are fine. Turkey is a reasonable example of a well grounded islamic state. In fact i have a few, granted not many, iranian friends who had to flee their country because they weren't muslim enough.

As for living in this century, well i would have thought that as a species we would have evolved past the point of believing in deities by now.

[mashman]

I was wondering when you pull out the racist card. Although this has nothing to do with race. No i'm not a racist, bigot, or a homophobe. I am, however, vehemently against those who would supplant established doctrine with a fundamentalist structure based on a fantasy.

Furthermore i am not particularly against islam either. Moderate islamists are fine. Turkey is a reasonable example of a well grounded islamic state. In fact i have a few, granted not many, iranian friends who had to flee their country because they weren't muslim enough.

As for living in this century, well i would have thought that as a species we would have evolved past the point of believing in deities by now.

heh... well the two do seem to go hand in hand. If we didn't supplant established doctrine, we'd still be swinging in the trees. There's two sides of every story and there are fundamenalists on both... viva la difference . Tis a small number who want to blow shit up, invade country's and exert influence on populations that do not share their beliefs and again, they are on both sides and imho the West is by far worse than the East in that respect. The fantasy of the West being that their way of life is better than that in the East as well as going to the East to blow shit up etc... One of the so called leaders recently received a Nobel Peace prize for sticking his nose in to the affairs of the East.

If that's the case, what makes you think that Islam is dragging the UK down the toilet? as she seems to be doing that exceptionally well herself.

I would have thought we'd have evolved past the greatest fantasy of them all by now... so believing in things that ?don't? exist v's believing in things that do exist that do much more harm than the things that don't is even worse in my book... but sure, religion is the problem.