NOW - New Ordered World

[mashman]

I read the whole thing.

I understand that you like the idea of a moneyless utopia but I still have absolutely no idea how it would (or could) work.

Cheers for taking the time and sorry for wasting it ... that's my point in regards to being too close as everyone will want answers and clarifications to certain elements. Wish I could clarify it for ya. Or if you could outline certain areas of ambiguity I'll post the clarification (hopefully) in the FAQ's?

[Subike]

I was refering to the format not the content.
The content is good,
But laid out in old school format.
If on paper, then space is limited, and your format is expected,
But using the internet media allows you to upmarket you approach.
you can emphasis your points with out the need for gimmick attractors like girly pics (extreme example)
So experiment with your layout,
may make the whole thing that much more interesting, readable, and memorable
You might even get new age younger people involved because its not an old school text book read.

[The Singing Chef]

Will find some piccies of dying or dead kids, that seems to work for a nano second or two . I was trying to stay away from piccies to keep the pages shorter, but I get what you mean. Pics and sound bites?

Haha dying kids could work, I mean it worked for KONY2012 It shouldn't make it to much larger with a couple of photos wrapped around with text?

I do find it easier to come back to each page and read and break from it though.

[mashman]

Would disagree, please reword as follows:

Cheers FM you sexy bastard (optional)....I have the courage and conviction to throw up ideas that maybe, just maybe, all of us can benefit or at least be slightly enlightened from. But hey, this is KB where you can even get bollocked for trying to be nice to people.......and FFS never EVER say the word 'respect' on this site in case you get blown out of the water.....

Good work fulla, well done....

sorry for missing the sexy bastard bit out, I feel less of a human being for it . But to get an honest opinion, KB is the perfect place and I'm big and ugly enough to realise what I'm letting myself in for... who knows, there may well be others who feel the same and will contribute, there may not, but the ball is rolling, we'll see how far it needs to be pushed and with a fuckload of luck it'll free fall at some point and I can get back to surfin porn and defiling pies.

[schrodingers cat]

Too many words but even then struggles to convey the message

Desired outomes too remote and abstract

Too reliant on a single premise which, ultimatly, isn't that clever.

Fraid to tell you, a website won't change the world but I trust you feel better for getting it off your chest

[mashman]

I was refering to the format not the content.
The content is good,
But laid out in old school format.
If on paper, then space is limited, and your format is expected,
But using the internet media allows you to upmarket you approach.
you can emphasis your points with out the need for gimmick attractors like girly pics (extreme example)
So experiment with your layout,
may make the whole thing that much more interesting, readable, and memorable
You might even get new age younger people involved because its not an old school text book read.

The thing is, noone likes to scroll... how do you feel about slidey down boxes that show the text? I can develop and do layout, but I'm an abysmal layout designer

[ducatilover]

I'm going to offer you some fantastic advice Mashy old chap;

Site needs tits.

(Yeah yeah, I'm reading through it)

[mashman]

Too many words but even then struggles to convey the message

Desired outomes too remote and abstract

Too reliant on a single premise which, ultimatly, isn't that clever.

Fraid to tell you, a website won't change the world but I trust you feel better for getting it off your chest

Aye, it's likely gotten worse the more times it's been rewritten... hence to too close to it thing.

Getting to that level is creating more walls of text though. Maybe it needs it.

Single premise? I would have thought a single thing sorting a lot of things was "clever"?

OMG you've just shattered my world view... Not that much better getting it off my chest as life still goes on in the wrong direction ... but I wasn't wholly expecting that to be the case.

[blackdog]

No time tonight big boy, but a quick scan has piqued my interest. Am happy to run an edit for you over the course of the next week or so. Having said that I think it was mostly on the money for grammar, punctuation and spelling.

Looking forward to see how this progresses.

[Woodman]

Ok, read it. Please indulge me a second.


So in the new order i am working in a factory making doodads for the export market which are paid for with money. Because I am in the factory all day how do I then obtain basic living stuff like food etc?

[mashman]

I was refering to the format not the content.
The content is good,
But laid out in old school format.
If on paper, then space is limited, and your format is expected,
But using the internet media allows you to upmarket you approach.
you can emphasis your points with out the need for gimmick attractors like girly pics (extreme example)
So experiment with your layout,
may make the whole thing that much more interesting, readable, and memorable
You might even get new age younger people involved because its not an old school text book read.

Just updated the now page with some really horrible blue thing, but if you click on it it expands a block of text. Better "feel"?

[mashman]

Ok, read it. Please indulge me a second.


So in the new order i am working in a factory making doodads for the export market which are paid for with money. Because I am in the factory all day how do I then obtain basic living stuff like food etc?

What are you doing in the factory all day ya dipshit? You're probably only going to have to work 4 or 5 hours for 4 or 5 days tops... that's said in the context of NOW where if needs be I'll do the other 4 or 5 hours per day 4 or 5 days a week and we both get extra time off to shop, or surf, or ride, or dance around like little pixies just coz we can. There will still be farmers making food, people canning food etc... and there will still be people delivering goods to supermarkets and there will still be people stocking shelves and there will still be people at the checkout (maybe not) but there will be people there to help you find wotcha need... who knows, praps you'll just order your food online and instead of stocking shelves they'll stock your reuseable boxes with your food, so less time trapsing around finding what you don't need. NOW offers plenty of different ways of doing things.

[Ender EnZed]

How does property work? How would one go about getting a new motorcycle from Japan?

[mashman]

How does property work? How would one go about getting a new motorcycle from Japan?

Possessions eh, heh, that's always the tricky one.

Bearing in mind that this is just 1 way to do it/look at it... Property will have a registered owner. You will have to maintain it. I assume you're talking about value though, in which case property will have a value, but only to those from overseas where you decide that you want to leave NZ. A cashing in yer chips sort of thing so that you leave with money. Essentially someone from overseas will buy your life in NZ.

The motorcycle is a little trickier. You will order it through a Government website as they are the overseas logistics folk and hold the money. They may well be buying a few of that model and may be able to get a discount. Unfortunately, yes there's always a catch, this will depend on how well the country is doing financially. Having said that I'm hoping that motorcycles will be "traded" in NZ. So if I wanted a retro scooter, for arguments sake, I would offer up the Prila as a form of trade, unless someone just didn't want to ride their bike and just offered it to anyone that wanted it. I would also hope that lending bikes out would become more common place where if I was going down south for a weeks tour with the family in the cage, the Prila could be lent out to whoever fancied riding the bike that week. It may encourage bike swaps etc... but new stuff would need to be bought/requested via the Govt. In the short term it could be that you have put in X amount of $$$ into the country's pot of cash and should really be able to have one if you really wanted to, but not too sure how that would work, I guess that comes down to the $$$ of which I think there should be plenty?

[schrodingers cat]

Single premise? I would have thought a single thing sorting a lot of things was "clever"?

At best it could be called elegant. Unfortunately the complexity of things means there is no silver bullet.