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Thread: An investigation of motorcycle rider use of and attitudes to high visibility gear

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    Just to be clear, who is paying for the research?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinfull View Post
    Fuck off !
    I didn't see that option
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsm.highvisresearch View Post
    3. What of the major barriers to the wearing of high visibility clothing, and what can be done to improve this?
    Well this isn't a slanted study at all is it? It's shouting out that high vis needs to be worn. Can anyone direct me to some objective based, statistically backed up research that leads us to believe that high vis will significantly reduce accidents. Such research would take into account experience, age, road conditions, weather conditions etc etc. I don't believe it exists. What I think does exist is a subjective viewpoint of "Oh if they had been wearing bright clothes they would have been seen and wouldn't have been knocked off" In my personal experience when I was knocked off my high vis and bright headlight didn't prevent the driver charging onto the roundabout in front of me, you've got it SMIDSY.
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    Hi vis is the new black. There is so much in use today no one pays any attention to it. If some one can not see my bright orange bike & head light they are not going pay any atention to any high vis.
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    Study Clarification

    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    pity they miss a complete age range...50-60 ,and who says there are benefits?
    Thank you to members for bringing this problem with the survey to our attention, we will fix this asap.

    Also we would like to clarify that this study is not assessing or judging the benefits or disadvantages of wearing high-vis, rather we are gathering public opinion on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiP View Post
    Well this isn't a slanted study at all is it? It's shouting out that high vis needs to be worn.
    And poorly constructed even as a tool for that end.

    Surprisingly unprofesional in fact, clumsy.
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    My biggest concern over making hi-vis compulsory is the false sense of security it is likely to lull many wearers into.

    Training motorcyclists to really use their eyes and their brain would be far more benificial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiP View Post
    Well this isn't a slanted study at all is it? It's shouting out that high vis needs to be worn. Can anyone direct me to some objective based, statistically backed up research that leads us to believe that high vis will significantly reduce accidents. Such research would take into account experience, age, road conditions, weather conditions etc etc. I don't believe it exists. What I think does exist is a subjective viewpoint of "Oh if they had been wearing bright clothes they would have been seen and wouldn't have been knocked off" In my personal experience when I was knocked off my high vis and bright headlight didn't prevent the driver charging onto the roundabout in front of me, you've got it SMIDSY.
    I don't wear hi viz and nor do i get knocked off !

    Smidsy ? Yeah sure if you insist, they are out there ! But no more then there were 30 years ago !

    I say what katman says, open your fucking eyes ppl !!!! There are hazzards out there at every bend, side street, roundabout, driveway, hell, they're even right there on your own bike, the moment you hop on it without taking the time to check the little things like pads, tyre pressures, head bearings, shall i go on ? And no one is looking for them, they blindly bolt off into the sunset going i'm ok jack, if i crash it must be some other cunt's fault !

    Jesus, i must be ok cause i don't even (cant even) fit in to this survey lol opps too old or not old enough you choose !

    Hi viz be fucked, pin a tail on me and call me a weazel cause i'm a cunning old fox and know that if i get fucked up, it will be me that fucks up !
    Not the fact that some other fuck never saw me, for fucks sake the fucker never new i existed till he heard me !

    Loud pipes save lives !!!!!!!!!!

    As does education ! the new licencing system goes nowhere to help the problem ! With both car or M/C licences !
    Full on driving/riding courses are the way to go !
    Put that in your survey and smoke it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsm.highvisresearch View Post
    Also we would like to clarify that this study is not assessing or judging the benefits or disadvantages of wearing high-vis, rather we are gathering public opinion on the subject.
    Right, but the first post treats that as a forgone conclusion.

    I would say the opinion you receive is likely to be very tainted by the negative connotations that brings about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Training motorcyclists to really use their eyes and their brain would be far more benificial.
    And car drivers... Oh, shit, maybe that's asking to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinfull View Post
    I don't wear hi viz and nor do i get knocked off !
    Riding a pushbike around at night is instant death too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsm.highvisresearch View Post
    Also we would like to clarify that this study is not assessing or judging the benefits or disadvantages of wearing high-vis, rather we are gathering public opinion on the subject.
    The judgement has been made already. This is lip service.

    My opinion? It's Gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koba View Post
    And car drivers... Oh, shit, maybe that's asking to much.
    It's far easier changing one's own habits and attitude than trying to change others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It's far easier changing one's own habits and attitude than trying to change others.
    Absolutely, especially stupid people.

    On the Hi Viz thing; isn't opinion on the matter already shown by habits? People who think it is good will be buying and wearing it, wont they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It's far easier changing one's own habits and attitude than trying to change others.
    Best thread for ages but i digress


    Why the fuck not courses for car drivers ! Jebus man in europe you have to earn a bloody good income to get a licence it's so expensive to get one !

    They have a system in place where only the quick witted drive ! Dont say that's not what we need here ! I say we do ! Drag half the drivers off the road and to be honest from what i've seen in the last wee while 2/3rds of the m/c riders !

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