An investigation of motorcycle rider use of and attitudes to high visibility gear

[rustic101]

To give people a little perspective:

This is a group of medical students completing their public health run. They were handed this topic and told to find out the perspectives of riders on this issue. If you have a problem take it up with those setting the assignment rather than the students who are doing the research. They did not pick the topic, or the way in which it is phrased.

I'm sure as part of this they will be doing a thorough literature review, which will highlight any research re effectiveness, contrast, motion camouflage etc. That aspect is not the topic being investigated: as has been stated their mandate is to look at the beliefs and attitudes of the riding population.

As for funding, I can personally attest to the fact that they have none. This is a group of students who have been given an assignment as part of their 4th year at medical school.

Furthermore they are not trying to undermine your rights, nor create legislation. Their mandate is to find facts, not make decisions. I don't understand why they are getting so much shit. Maybe I'm missing something?

Well said.

I'm being interviewed tomorrow at the School of Medicine so I can at least be of some assistance to these guys task.

From my perspective this is about a group of young health professionals trying to get ahead. Heck some of them may even get into a position where they are solely responsible for saving lives. It could even shape their personal opinions of riders. If I can assist with that then hey why not have say. What happens with that information is actually irrelevant worse case something good may come of it.

[Usarka]

Would you rather policies were formed based on what the politician's 4 year old tells them to do or what their mate who stands to gain several million dollars asks of them? Or maybe they should just legislate whatever happens to work well in their dreams? I for one am all for evidence being taken into account (along with common sense + public opinion) when making policy.

No, from people who are qualified.

I didn't realise it was such a tricky concept.

[Ocean1]

No, from people who are qualified.

I didn't realise it was such a tricky concept.

The real question is: qualified in what. If all you've got is a hammer...

Try presenting the same patient with the same symptoms to several different specialists, (Ive watched this happen). Briefly, they each see a cure in terms of their own field of expertise.

This matters. If you're after the "correct" solution then you'll never get a definitive answer. If you're interested in shaping policy based on a "correct" solution then choose your experts carefully.

[Lelitu]

No, from people who are qualified.

I didn't realise it was such a tricky concept.

of course, they're 4th year students. that means this work they're doing
is a significant portion of the work that will decide if they're qualified or not.

[bogan]

of course, they're 4th year students. that means this work they're doing
is a significant portion of the work that will decide if they're qualified or not.

Everyone seems to be forgetting the part where they claimed to have a government client. Unqualified people should not do projects of such importance.

[Hellzie]

Not sure how that survey will be of much use? Nit many questions and they don't really go into much detail about anything. Ah well, I did my bit.

[Zedder]

Not sure how that survey will be of much use? Nit many questions and they don't really go into much detail about anything. Ah well, I did my bit.

I think they got a fair bit of additional information from this thread though.

[rustic101]

I think they got a fair bit of additional information from this thread though.

It certainly has answered one of the questions around Attitudes and not necessarily toward Hi-vis lol

[Scuba_Steve]

Everyone seems to be forgetting the part where they claimed to have a government client. Unqualified people should not do projects of such importance.

1stly Why not??? the people making the laws are unqualified, so what difference is it going to make?
2ndly I'd be interested to see such a project from a "qualified" person, let me know when you find 1

[Madness]

Everyone seems to be forgetting the part where they claimed to have a government client.

Everyone seems to be forgetting the part where a member representing (Ali-G stylez) said government client denied all knowledge of any association with the project.

[bogan]

1stly Why not??? the people making the laws are unqualified, so what difference is it going to make?
2ndly I'd be interested to see such a project from a "qualified" person, let me know when you find 1

The people making the laws get their information from qualified sources, so they do not need to be qulaified in all areas. The fact that our current law makers are muppets is a different story.
Garbage in, garbage out remember!

[Scuba_Steve]

The people making the laws get their information from qualified sources, so they do not need to be qulaified in all areas. The fact that our current law makers are muppets is a different story.
Garbage in, garbage out remember!

which does bring my biggest problem & a new issue altogether, a controlling Govt department should have some bloody idea of that which they control.
I am still yet to see a qualified minister or Govt department

As for the "Hi-Vis" thing I personally think it's more likely to come down to how much money 3M or DayGlo Color throw at the Govt, or how much the Govt predicts they can make off the non-compliance rather than any actual facts

[p.dath]

Of course it makes a difference.

I wear hi-viz and I look like a knob. I don't normally look like a knob.

Voila, that's the difference.

Haha. But your making the same mistake again. How do you know you don't normaly look like a knob?

[manxkiwi]

Can't see what they'll gain from that survey. 'What do you wear?', 'what would you consider wearing?'. That's about it. As has been said, people will fail to see a truck! A bike's got no chance. You basically look after yourself on the road.

I guess where it becomes compulsory, the new lines will be: 'I don't know how they didn't see me. I had my flouro on!!'.

[SimJen]

whats annoying tho is I had cheap leathers for many years and finally managed to get myself a nice set
My Dainese one piece is pretty bright, in tricolore italian colours. Its more than bright enough in my opinion, to wear any gay hi viz will wreck the awesomeness that I paid for!
I just won't do it, even if its law!
FTP!