Non drinkers and reasons behind it

**nodrog:Me** · 16th May 2012, 13:21

Originally Posted by DMNTD

Interesting...by choice, I have yet to have an alcoholic drink since posting this.

Are Justices legs broken?

**DMNTD:Me** · 16th May 2012, 13:23

Originally Posted by nodrog

Are Justices legs broken?

It's just a sprain, I'm certain of it

**nodrog:Me** · 16th May 2012, 13:27

Originally Posted by DMNTD

It's just a sprain, I'm certain of it

As long as the eggs are still getting cooked.

**DMNTD:Me** · 16th May 2012, 13:30

Originally Posted by nodrog

As long as the eggs are still getting cooked.

Eggs? Celery can be "eaten" raw

**nodrog:Me** · 16th May 2012, 13:38

Originally Posted by DMNTD

Eggs? Celery can be "eaten" raw

yerp

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**madbikeboy** · 16th May 2012, 20:51

Originally Posted by GingerMidget

Mmmmm coffee. Helping motivate me since forever ago. I've started cleaning stuff. This could turn out to be a not wasted sunday!

Okay, I tried reading all 15 pages of shite and then my attention span disappeared.

To the people who are proud of your drinking and assholeishness, good on you. Keep drinking and have one for each of us as well. You're all a bunch of weak assed mother fuckers who need a crutch instead of manning up and being real. Drunk drivers have cost me personally, I look around the dinner table and Christmas day and see empty spaces. Nothing but empty spaces. Keep drinking, drive fast, take chances. It's all because of the booze. No need for personal responsibility. I'd shoot every last fucking drunk driver myself if I could rationalise it. Maybe I should get drunk so I've got a reason.

Okay, to the OP - as much as I hate to agree with JRandom - exercise seems to help overcome addictions. It'll help with the sleep. It will help with the depression.

Get help for the core issues - meaning the depression and whatever is causing it - do you understand that there is a cause and effect here - why do you drink, why do you have insomnia?

Coffee - limit to one a day, in the middle of the morning. Drink Latte's because they have loads of milk and that seems to help reduce the bad effects. Eat properly, manage your blood sugars. Walk every day at the same time - no matter what the weather, get your skates on for an hour. I cycle as well. Except here in NZ because apparently we don't belong on the road; but I'm only back temporarily...

I spent this week in the coronary care unit at Auckland hospital with someone who is 70; his room mate was 27 and had died (and been resurrected, no other word for it) when out for a "few quiets" with his drinking buddies. 27 years old. Loads of energy drinks, loads of booze and partying, and now 27 years old with a pacemaker. Presented with his own mortality, this 27 year old was trying to walk the balance between reality and his cool drinking friends who were smuggling him booze in his hospital bed. An Aesop's fable of sorts...

**Berries** · 16th May 2012, 21:23

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

To the people who are proud of your drinking and assholeishness, good on you. Keep drinking and have one for each of us as well. You're all a bunch of weak assed mother fuckers who need a crutch instead of manning up and being real. Drunk drivers have cost me personally, I look around the dinner table and Christmas day and see empty spaces. Nothing but empty spaces. Keep drinking, drive fast, take chances. It's all because of the booze. No need for personal responsibility. I'd shoot every last fucking drunk driver myself if I could rationalise it. Maybe I should get drunk so I've got a reason.

Bit of a jump from being someone enjoying a quiet drink or two and harming nobody to being a 'week assed motherfucker drunk driver' isn't there?

**Number One** · 17th May 2012, 10:52

Originally Posted by Berries

Bit of a jump from being someone enjoying a quiet drink or two and harming nobody to being a 'week assed motherfucker drunk driver' isn't there?

I thought the same! Thought i was in the wrong thread when I read that first bit

Bet he felt better after typing that out though!

**nodrog:Me** · 17th May 2012, 11:04

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

.... I look around the dinner table and Christmas day and see empty spaces........

Well nobody wants to have christmas with a sober angry man.

**Crisis management** · 17th May 2012, 12:38

Originally Posted by Number One

Indeed.

Any idea what the GOD references been replaced by? I know a few AA members but they aren't that 'out' about it and reading that lot got me wondering if that's part of the problem...doesn't strike a chord with me so wonder how one particular friend relates to it.

Never been to AA but my understanding of the use of a "Higher Power" (their term) is that it is a non specific that lets you chose the colour of your god without chucking christianity down your throat. The advantage of having a higher power is that it lets you unload your failures and failings to someone / thing without repercussion and judgement, when you are having to address your shortcomings there's enough people "helping" with advice and comments that having someone you can unload on without getting feedback is quite a relief.
It's not something that works for me (I'm an atheist) but I don't have a problem with it, in fact I can see it's advantages and I know a lot of people that have found support from it, as usual, we are all individual and you need to tailor things to suit yourself.

How's today going GM, hope your hanging in there and having a good one!

**Number One** · 17th May 2012, 12:59

Originally Posted by Crisis management

It's not something that works for me (I'm an atheist) but I don't have a problem with it, in fact I can see it's advantages and I know a lot of people that have found support from it, as usual, we are all individual and you need to tailor things to suit yourself.

Yeah best I not develop an unhealthy habit - that wouldn't work for me either.

**madbikeboy** · 17th May 2012, 16:24

Originally Posted by Berries

Bit of a jump from being someone enjoying a quiet drink or two and harming nobody to being a 'week assed motherfucker drunk driver' isn't there?

Okay, maybe I should have a bridging sentence like - drunkards always seem to feel it's their right to get annoyingly obliterated and then go from being drunk at party, bar, work do, sports match - and then they do stupid stuff like piss on walls on Queen St, start fights outside clubs and bars, and then jump in their cars and drive home.

Is that better, less of a leap for y'all? Alcohol always seems to bring out the rational and clear headed decisions that make for a happy society. Oh, wait. Ever sat in a hospital ER in the wee smalls of a Saturday morning. Ever hung out with cops at bar closing time?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th May 2012, 16:28

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

. Ever hung out with cops at bar closing time?

Ever hung out with a bunch of cops that've been drinking?

**Maha** · 17th May 2012, 16:35

Originally Posted by madbikeboy

. Ever hung out with cops at bar closing time?

Years ago...late 80's, my then flatemate worked for the MOT...we would drink at the Bar at the Police station on friday nights before hitting the clubs (that does sound sooooooooo 80's dont it?) and whenever a cop would get up to leave, someone would say where the booze stops were....

Yes, they drove home after drinking.