LOL @ smoke tax increase!

[mashman]

Would someone care to list the benefits of smoking? And before you say,"it calms my nerves," it in fact causes the nervousness you claim it calms. So as with other drugs you suffer withdrawal symptoms.

It annoys people who don't grasp the concept that man is free to do what he wants. It benefits me no end

[scumdog]

If you go on to the street in any town or city you will be inhaling exhaust fumes. At least it's easy for people to avoid cigarette smoke... those who choose to that is.

ONLY if you do go into a town or city - hence why I don't live in one.

But SMOKERS don't seem to be able to avoid 'city smoke' AND nicotine smoke - double whammy, bad luck for THEM!

[scumdog]

It annoys people who don't grasp the concept that man is free to do what he wants. It benefits me no end

You sir are an exeption (boy, are you EVER!)

Most smokers I've met try to expound the 'benefits' of smoking. Except thos trying to give up.

On the 'giving up' thing, funny how I've yet to meet a smoker who says "Man, this smoking thing is GREAT, I wish I'd started it years before I did!

[mashman]

ONLY if you do go into a town or city - hence why I don't live in one.

But SMOKERS don't seem to be able to avoid 'city smoke' AND nicotine smoke - double whammy, bad luck for THEM!

they probably cancel each other out... anyone got any research on that?

[Road kill]

So you reckon inhaling exhaust fumes over a lifetime causes no ill effect? Why did they remove lead from petrol?

Sorry mate I'm a bit slow,,,you'll have to point out where I said that.

In fact if you go back to my earlier post I did in fact say I believe pollution is a major cause in some cancers.

[mashman]

Sorry mate I'm a bit slow,,,you'll have to point out where I said that.

In fact if you go back to my earlier post I did in fact say I believe pollution is a major cause in some cancers.

Oh dear my apologies... I saw there was sarcasm in the comment and OMG focussed on the wrong point can you ever forgive me?

[Edbear]

It annoys people who don't grasp the concept that man is free to do what he wants. It benefits me no end

Look! I can't bling you twice in a row!

What do you think of the manufacturers as outlined?

[Berries]

Would someone care to list the benefits of smoking? And before you say,"it calms my nerves," it in fact causes the nervousness you claim it calms. So as with other drugs you suffer withdrawal symptoms.

No smoker truly believes there are real benefits. It is the nicotine that does that to you. We all know, hand on heart, that it is bad for you but that little nicotine bastard sits there and you know how satisfying it would be to just have one to appease him.

Nothing I have tried comes close to having the addictiveness of nicotine, and I had a bloody good go trying in the early 90's.

[Road kill]

Oh dear my apologies... I saw there was sarcasm in the comment and OMG focussed on the wrong point can you ever forgive me?

I'll probably get over it.

[mashman]

Look! I can't bling you twice in a row!

What do you think of the manufacturers as outlined?

If there were no more manufacturers, I'd grow my own or go without... but it's my choice to do so, they only supply the product.

[Bikemad]

i don't really care about the rights and wrongs of smoking but...........why the fuck can't you lazy fucktard smokers get the hang of using the ashtray supplied in ya car instead of chuckin ya spit covered butt out the fuckin window?

[Usarka]

i don't really care about the rights and wrongs of smoking but...........why the fuck can't you lazy fucktard smokers get the hang of using the ashtray supplied in ya car instead of chuckin ya spit covered butt out the fuckin window?

It makes the car stink bro.

[Road kill]

Would someone care to list the benefits of smoking? And before you say,"it calms my nerves," it in fact causes the nervousness you claim it calms. So as with other drugs you suffer withdrawal symptoms.

First time I smoked a ciggy was after a car accident I was involved in.
I was 14 and one of the cops that attended gave me a smoke because of the state of me at the time,,it instantly calmed the shakes I was going through and helped me clam down again.

that was a once off,I didn't start to smoke full time until about 3 years after that but the expereince did stay in my mind.
I'm not going to say that cop had any big play in my eventualy taking up smoking because all my family smoked at that time and it was simply inevitable I would as well.


I don't smoke now but did for around 35 years and even though I may not be that articulate I have read I hell of a lot about smoking,it's causes,it's effects,,,it's relationship to cancers,,,and while I agree with the basis of what you say,,a lot of it is the same old emotive stuff I've heard and seen proven incorrect by a never ending line of experts in the past.

What people like you always avoid or don't realise is that nicotine does have a two fold effect,,the first being a calming effect,,followed by the need to continue feeding the resulting addiction.
I guess that just doesn't suit your black an white style of argument,,,but it's also one of the major brain washing causes of people taking up things like smoking and other forms of drug use,,,,they smell the rat so decide to give it a go to find the truth for themselves.

That sort of rat smell was what first got me interested in smoking the herb mon,,,,during the early 60's people were talking total shit about weed,and it sounded to the 10 year old that was me "like bullshit" after all it was coming from proven liars,,,so at 10 years old I set my mind on eventualy finding out for myself if it was true,,,,and oh course it wasn't,,,I didn't become a dribbling junkie over night,,I did lose my virginity on the spot "damn it",,in fact none of the evil shit that the experts claimed would happen did.

No offence ment,but people like you talk about smoking causing cancer but I've never heard one of you admit or mention the fact that the cancer gene naturaly exists in all mammals and it's actualy different forms of stress "smoking being only one of them" that causes the gene to mutate into the cancer form that kills us.

Then there's the other myth that nicotine kills you,,,it doesn't,,,,it's the smoking that kills you.
You can buy nicotine in various forms of patches an pills today,,use it til the day you die but it won't be the nicotine that kills you.
You can ingest nicotine in some forms and it will do you no harm at all,,,yet try to ingest it in another form and it will kill you instantly,,,although not from cancer,,,complex stuff,,,best avoided in any form,,,,but

[Edbear]

First time I smoked a ciggy was after a car accident I was involved in.
I was 14 and one of the cops that attended gave me a smoke because of the state of me at the time,,it instantly calmed the shakes I was going through and helped me clam down again.

that was a once off,I didn't start to smoke full time until about 3 years after that but the expereince did stay in my mind.
I'm not going to say that cop had any big play in my eventualy taking up smoking because all my family smoked at that time and it was simply inevitable I would as well.


I don't smoke now but did for around 35 years and even though I may not be that articulate I have read I hell of a lot about smoking,it's causes,it's effects,,,it's relationship to cancers,,,and while I agree with the basis of what you say,,a lot of it is the same old emotive stuff I've heard and seen proven incorrect by a never ending line of experts in the past.

What people like you always avoid or don't realise is that nicotine does have a two fold effect,,the first being a calming effect,,followed by the need to continue feeding the resulting addiction.
I guess that just doesn't suit your black an white style of argument,,,but it's also one of the major brain washing causes of people taking up things like smoking and other forms of drug use,,,,they smell the rat so decide to give it a go to find the

...SNIP...

Then there's the other myth that nicotine kills you,,,it doesn't,,,,it's the smoking that kills you.
You can buy nicotine in various forms of patches an pills today,,use it til the day you die but it won't be the nicotine that kills you.
You can ingest nicotine in some forms and it will do you no harm at all,,,yet try to ingest it in another form and it will kill you instantly,,,although not from cancer,,,complex stuff,,,best avoided in any form,,,,but

I too, have done extensive study on it but included drugs in general and the human nervous system. I was addicted to prescription painkillers and well understand the way a drug becomes the very problem it was initially being taken to treat.

Nicotine is added to make it addictive and you are quite correct in that it is smoking, anything at all, that is harmful. Added to the inherent risk are the poisons in cigarettes.

[Edbear]

PS. Cancer has many causes and is a real and scary problem so everyone is actively seeking a cure. The point here is considering this, why would intelligent people actively seek to get it and suffer the disease?