R-Plates coming soon to a restricted rider near you?

[Akzle]

Agreeing to the rules is NOT a legal requirement ... obeying the rules (laws)*legislation of the country is.

i didn't agree to that, either...

[FJRider]

i didn't agree to that, either...

I don't care if you agree with them or not ... nor will any enforcment officer that issues you with an infringement notice ... Your name on the ticket ... you pay.

Dont pay ... you tell it to the Judge .... He wont care if you agree either ...

[Akzle]

I don't care if you agree with them or not ... nor will any enforcment officer that issues you with an infringement notice ... Your name on the ticket ... you pay.

Dont pay ... you tell it to the Judge .... He wont care if you agree either ...

and you'd be wrong about that too. (except the cops, they're largely ignorant of the law and "just do their job", but you get the odd one who isn't thick as shit and will actually listen and think.)
my name on the ticket? now how would they know that?
and what is in a name?

follow/research a few court cases that are dealt with by people refusing to accept the court's jurisdiction....

[FJRider]

and you'd be wrong about that too. (except the cops, they're largely ignorant of the law and "just do their job", but you get the odd one who isn't thick as shit and will actually listen and think.)
my name on the ticket? now how would they know that?
and what is in a name?

follow/research a few court cases that are dealt with by people refusing to accept the court's jurisdiction....

Good luck with that ... let us know how you get on. But I doubt if you have the balls to try ...

[Asher]

and you'd be wrong about that too. (except the cops, they're largely ignorant of the law and "just do their job", but you get the odd one who isn't thick as shit and will actually listen and think.)
my name on the ticket? now how would they know that?
and what is in a name?

follow/research a few court cases that are dealt with by people refusing to accept the court's jurisdiction....

Fuck you are annoying and change your damn font color!

[Akzle]

Good luck with that ... let us know how you get on. But I doubt if you have the balls to try ...

and yet again, you'd be wrong. i got let off 120km/h in a construction zone by talking to the cop, for about half an hour, about life, the universe and the faux legal system.
i also avoided court the last time i got pulled over a) because the cop was an arsewipe and b) he was an ignorant shithead that didn't (as you seem not to) know the diffrence between law and legislation, and that his job is policy (legislation) enforcement and has nothing to do with law.

to clarify, i am not trying to call you an ignorant shithead, or any other ignorant people shitheads, just this particular cop on this particular day.

Fuck you are annoying and change your damn font color!

annoying because you can't answer the questions how you want and you might not be right after all?

[Asher]

and yet again, you'd be wrong. i got let off 120km/h in a construction zone by talking to the cop, for about half an hour, about life, the universe and the faux legal system.
i also avoided court the last time i got pulled over a) because the cop was an arsewipe and b) he was an ignorant shithead that didn't (as you seem not to) know the diffrence between law and legislation, and that his job is policy (legislation) enforcement and has nothing to do with law.

to clarify, i am not trying to call you an ignorant shithead, or any other ignorant people shitheads, just this particular cop on this particular day.

annoying because you can't answer the questions how you want and you might not be right after all?

Im not attacking your argument, i didnt even read it.
No one likes a smart ass, you may be right but your still a smart ass.
Change your damn font color!

[p.dath]

and yet again, you'd be wrong.

FJRider is pretty knowledgable about the law and its application. I'd give his words some consideration. There were given freely.

[Akzle]

Im not attacking your argument, i didnt even read it.
No one likes a smart ass, you may be right but your still a smart ass.
Change your damn font color!

ahuh

maybe so

and what font color would you prefer i use? it needs to be something different for my own browsing.
i've just loaded up the full KB page (all 97,079 bytes) and green really isn't that difficult, perhaps you need glasses?

FJRider is pretty knowledgable about the law and its application. I'd give his words some consideration. There were given freely.

that may be your interpretation, but for that: i'd throw you in that "wrong" category too.
i am only putting it out there for thems that are interested in pursuing it, if you're happy clinging to what's been beaten into you all you life then so be it.

[allycatz]

My daughter was killed when she was in a car being driven by a restricted driver at 11.45 at night...daughter should not of been in the car and driver should not of been in the road. At the funeral, there were cars full of restricted drivers and learners with passengers that left the service after the minister talked at length about not sticking to the road code....did the message get across? Nope!!!!! I think R plates to identify cars on the road especially after hours with passengers that shouldn't be there isn't a bad idea

[Parlane]

My daughter was killed when she was in a car being driven by a restricted driver at 11.45 at night...daughter should not of been in the car and driver should not of been in the road. At the funeral, there were cars full of restricted drivers and learners with passengers that left the service after the minister talked at length about not sticking to the road code....did the message get across? Nope!!!!! I think R plates to identify cars on the road especially after hours with passengers that shouldn't be there isn't a bad idea

No one will leave their R plates on at night if they are on their restricted. I personally drove around on my restricted* for 5 years with or without passengers and after curfew. It's not the label that killed your daughter, it was poor driving. Sorry for your loss.

*All illegal activities described in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real events, are purely coincidental..

[winston]

i got let off 120km/h in a construction zone by talking to the cop, for about half an hour, about life, the universe and the faux legal system.

annoying because you can't answer the questions how you want and you might not be right after all?

fuck talking to a cop for half hour.

give him a false name and fuck off same as i do works every time long as bike rego in same false name they jus swallow it

[fetchfire]

But now we have the following testing...

Learner - basic handling + scratchie = novice, shows they are barely functional on the road, let alone safe

Restricted - long practical test, same as the full test was before March, shows they meet the requirements of a 6F before March, because they passed the same test

Full - short practical test, exactly what the restricted test was before March, shows they are as good as 6R was before March?

The 6F is a lesser test now than the 6R, demonstrably. So what exactly does the current 6F show that the current 6R doesn't?

Really, it's nothing more than a cursory "checkup" that the rider hasn't developed any early bad habits, in other words, it's nothing more than an early licence renewal type of check.

I'm not saying this is good, or bad, but that's how it is... it's a bit hard to justify limits on 6R under the new test levels when they have shown they are at the level required for an "old" 6F.

I think the silly part they haven't looked at is the defensive driving course. Restricted can do this course to cut down their wait time until their full. The course specifically focuses on hazard detection, but now hazard detection has moved from the full to restricted test so they have already passed it.

Now I have to sit in a room with a bunch of teens and watch videos about hazard detection that I have already proven I can do, and its all car based.

[Akzle]

No one will leave their R plates on at night if they are on their restricted. I personally drove around on my restricted* for 5 years with or without passengers and after curfew. It's not the label that killed your daughter, it was poor driving. Sorry for your loss.

*All illegal activities described in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real events, are purely coincidental..

pretty much. i had 3 cars before i had my L, and that was probably the last "licence" i "applied" for.
people have been killed in vehicles where the driver 'held' a full license.
maybe driving is just too dangerous for mere people and they need to be saved from themselves.
petition your government to ban cars!

fuck talking to a cop for half hour.

give him a false name and fuck off same as i do works every time long as bike rego in same false name they jus swallow it

they're people too, i used to be all "fuck the police" and it's no wonder i was treated as i was,
now i take a more educational approach with them, and so far, at least 50% of cops aren't complete dicks about it, the ones that are, it doesn't bother me because they're fraudulently acting outside their jurisdiction and i carry a voice recorder so if they really want to go to court it will not work in their favour.
unfortunately, police, as anyone else gainfully employed i perpetuating a corrupt system, when their ideas are attacked or dismissed, they get quite aggressively ignorant (which works in my favour, too)

i have only time, and if i can open one guy's (cop or not) eyes to the bullshit then i shall not live in vain. i also had my kids in the car with that cop, and want to set a good example for them.

[Akzle]

You've forgotton "A" plates for Asians ...

they're easy to spot... they hang out in the fast lane doing 80. and have a rear-tray full of hello kitty shit.