R-Plates coming soon to a restricted rider near you?

[Oblivion]

I think the silly part they haven't looked at is the defensive driving course. Restricted can do this course to cut down their wait time until their full. The course specifically focuses on hazard detection, but now hazard detection has moved from the full to restricted test so they have already passed it.

Now I have to sit in a room with a bunch of teens and watch videos about hazard detection that I have already proven I can do, and its all car based.

I'm waiting it out. The time that you spend in the classroom could be better but to use actually riding and honing your skills. Thats just me though. Half of the teenagers that turn up arent interested slightly in learning, only in getting their full sooner. They drive like wankers, probably are part of this F the police stuff, and wonder why they get arrested after standing up for themselves like assholes when they are clearly in the wrong.

/end rage

I personally think that the defensive driving course should be done on something like a police obstacle course. They let you drive round where they quickfire hazards at you, and you have to respond. Points deducted with each hazard hit. And maybe a few lessons in spin recovery. Hazard theory seems somewhat ineffective at getting the message across to teens.

[Akzle]

I personally think that the defensive driving course should be done on something like a police obstacle course. They let you drive round where they quickfire hazards at you, and you have to respond. Points deducted with each hazard hit. And maybe a few lessons in spin recovery. Hazard theory seems somewhat ineffective at getting the message across to teens.

<-- this should be the learners test.

defensive driving course should be done in a 20 year old sigma on a gravel road.

some professional rally driver should set a time, if you can't get within 10-15% of it, no licence for you.
(yes, i believe everyone on the road should be a trained, professional driver)

[FJRider]

I think the silly part they haven't looked at is the defensive driving course. Restricted can do this course to cut down their wait time until their full. The course specifically focuses on hazard detection, but now hazard detection has moved from the full to restricted test so they have already passed it.

Now I have to sit in a room with a bunch of teens and watch videos about hazard detection that I have already proven I can do, and its all car based.

I did the course in the early seventies ... and even today, remains relevant for me today. Even on a motorcycle ... most aspects can transfer over to motorcycling. Even if its only to know what the other driver might do/think ... in any given situation.

The day you "switch off" your hazard detection system ... you're heading for trouble. And you will never learn too much about it. How much (if you ever do) apply that knowledge in your own travels ... will decide how much use it is to you.

You will prove you can do it ... when you use that knowledge to save your own life. Trust me ... you will know when that happens. I hope you dont have to prove it too often.

[fetchfire]

I did the course in the early seventies ... and even today, remains relevant for me today. Even on a motorcycle ... most aspects can transfer over to motorcycling. Even if its only to know what the other driver might do/think ... in any given situation.

The day you "switch off" your hazard detection system ... you're heading for trouble. And you will never learn too much about it. How much (if you ever do) apply that knowledge in your own travels ... will decide how much use it is to you.

You will prove you can do it ... when you use that knowledge to save your own life. Trust me ... you will know when that happens. I hope you dont have to prove it too often.

I agree, everyone should do the course. I did it for my car test ages ago. But I really think they should move it to the learner stage if they are testing for hazards in the restricted test.

Someone trialed a motorcycle specific course in wellington, but it got cut after the trial. My friend did it and he said it was a huge help and he wouldn't have passed his full test without it.