Justice?

beefhookeed · 9th June 2012, 13:36

Originally Posted by Akzle

i'm all for it. the present "justice" system is f*cked.

presumed guilty until you can prove yourself innocent. no shit.

crime pays in NZ, and until that is not the case, crime will continue.
i'm all for crims having things removed from them (hands, balls etc)
but the laws need to suit. i don't want to be shot for travelling 160km/h, i do want the guy that stole my last bike to have an arm off. (cops never caught him, never found the bike, and frankly, didn't give too much of a shit. if i had some weed lying on the bench they would drag ME to court. fair? *roll tui ad)

but the worst crims wear suits. they work at a place called "parliament" and rob the whole country blind with no recourse...

Last time I had my car stolen, I tracked in within three days, identified the thief and gave the police an address where the "plated" car would be. 12 months later I ask wasup? an get told that the car is a differrent colour than the one reported stolen...so they had'nt recovered it!

Ended up getting back a trashed car 14 & having to pay the towy for storage.

There is some interesting comentary on the justice system at kiwisfirst.com and nzjustice.com

**jasonu** · 9th June 2012, 15:49

Originally Posted by superman

If you read what the entire article states a sentence of 14 months for this man is perfectly adequate for demanding money in a 'commanding tone' while in a drunken stupor, when he's obviously sick with addiction.

Extra time in jail would do nothing but cost the state more money, he obviously wouldn't learn anything more due to his many stints in prison. What he needs is shooting.

That is a more appropriate solution.

**Road kill** · 9th June 2012, 18:41

Originally Posted by Akzle

i'm all for it. the present "justice" system is f*cked.

presumed guilty until you can prove yourself innocent. no shit.

crime pays in NZ, and until that is not the case, crime will continue.
i'm all for crims having things removed from them (hands, balls etc)
but the laws need to suit. i don't want to be shot for travelling 160km/h, i do want the guy that stole my last bike to have an arm off. (cops never caught him, never found the bike, and frankly, didn't give too much of a shit. if i had some weed lying on the bench they would drag ME to court. fair? *roll tui ad)

but the worst crims wear suits. they work at a place called "parliament" and rob the whole country blind with no recourse...

You forgot to point out their practically all whites as well,and even the brown ones arn't really brown unless their 100% brown accoarding to some on this site.
So you honkies are a real pack of arseholes huh,,,even rip off your own while you shit on the semi brown guy.
Fuck mate,,,just who would you trust

**Indiana_Jones** · 9th June 2012, 19:06

My Daddy was a bankrobber, but he never hurt nobody. He just loved to live that way and he loved to steal your money.

-Indy

**98tls** · 9th June 2012, 20:56

Originally Posted by Road kill

and even the brown ones arn't really brown unless their 100% brown accoarding to some on this site.

I have some brown hairs on my bottom does that mean i am entilted to something or did i just not wipe my arse properly?

**superman** · 10th June 2012, 03:30

Originally Posted by jasonu

That is a more appropriate solution.

Yes, the best thing for the State to do would be to take away a mans life for stealing.

HURRAY FOR DARK AGES STYLE PUNISHMENTS!

**jasonu** · 10th June 2012, 06:04

Originally Posted by superman

Yes, the best thing for the State to do would be to take away a mans life for stealing.

HURRAY FOR DARK AGES STYLE PUNISHMENTS!

But this is far from his first offense. He is a 'career criminal with 170 convictions' No amount of tree hugging sandel and sock wearing touchy feely rehabilitation will change him. Putting him in jail costs the tax payer and doesn't do any good as his past history shows. He contributes nothing good to society. Fuck him.

**Akzle** · 10th June 2012, 10:01

Originally Posted by Road kill

You forgot to point out their practically all whites as well,and even the brown ones arn't really brown unless their 100% brown accoarding to some on this site.
So you honkies are a real pack of arseholes huh,,,even rip off your own while you shit on the semi brown guy.
Fuck mate,,,just who would you trust

who you calling honky...? i'm 1/16th black, enough to claim all sorts of shit, free uni, treaty settlements, land, whatever...

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

My Daddy was a ~~bankrobber~~banker*, but he never hurt nobody. He just loved to live that way and he loved to steal your money.

-Indy

**superman** · 10th June 2012, 15:04

Originally Posted by jasonu

But this is far from his first offense. He is a 'career criminal with 170 convictions' No amount of tree hugging sandel and sock wearing touchy feely rehabilitation will change him. Putting him in jail costs the tax payer and doesn't do any good as his past history shows. He contributes nothing good to society. Fuck him.

Yeah... everyone gets an absolutely equal opportunity in modern society and he chose to become who he is today on purpose. Let's kill him so that the most important thing in the world MONEY doesn't get wasted.

**Kickaha** · 10th June 2012, 15:07

Originally Posted by superman

Let's kill him so that the most important thing in the world MONEY doesn't get wasted.

No, lets kill him so because he's a fucking waste of space and so he doesn't get a chance to rack up another 170 convictions

**superman** · 10th June 2012, 15:15

Originally Posted by Kickaha

No, lets kill him so because he's a fucking waste of space and so he doesn't get a chance to rack up another 170 convictions

I think we should do the same with anyone who has got more than 3 speeding tickets. They obviously can't stick to the rules of the State so let's just fucking kill them.

**jasonu** · 11th June 2012, 04:14

Originally Posted by superman

Yeah... everyone gets an absolutely equal opportunity in modern society and he chose to become who he is today on purpose. Let's kill him so that the most important thing in the world MONEY doesn't get wasted.

Yep, that's the idea.

**scracha** · 11th June 2012, 06:56

Originally Posted by superman

I think we should do the same with anyone who has got more than 3 speeding tickets. They obviously can't stick to the rules of the State so let's just fucking kill them.

Yeah...cos this guy truly can be rehabilitated. What planet are you living on?

I'm a big believer in "live and let live, as long as it doesn't affect other people". Smoking a j, injecting heroin or speeding past my house doesn't affect me....so I don't care. Rob my house, gimmie the bash or worse then yeah, you should be punished. I also don't want to have to pay lots of money to administer justice.

I also don't believe that "I was drunk/stoned/upset" is a valid reason for reducing sentences. Get arsey with certain types of drugs or alcohol, then avoid them.

This guy clearly has a huge effect on the lives of other people. I'd banish him and other career crims to Great Island until he decides to live in a manner that doesn't screw up other people's lives. For severe crimes, then Sharia Law has a certain appeal.