Sports bike scum

[MentalFacility]

In NZ Failure to provide a Police officer with you name and address is enough to have you locked up. So Go for it and remain silent, no skin off my nose.
You clowns should not be allowed to ride motorised vehicles of any sort.
Watch the vid.The officer ignored many other offences in his careful pursuit of the guy he stopped, no one was hurt except the dick with the helmet cams ego.
Then to read some of the posts on the vids commets line, wow.
I don't suspect, I know, if any one of you keyboard warriors were ever in trouble you'd be hollering for our boys in blue pretty quick smart, if any one of you did what these wallies on bikes did you'd expect to go down, wouldn't you?
Grow up!
Get off our roads and make em safer and pleasanter for those of us who ride with no expectation of being picked on and don't give other motorists cause to Hate bikers.

What i was trying to say it takes a decent person to be a good cop. Cops are a must to have any sort of a decent community, but they are all just people, and some of them are bad people that make good cops look bad.

[onearmedbandit]

Lots of talk about this on the American forums. He got arrested for his number plate being obscured. There is an investigation into the police officers actions and talk of legal action from the rider.

[pritch]

I watched the video and really couldn't see too much wrong with the riding. Most certainly didn't seem like they were speeding.

The cop initially spent quite a long time in his car, presumably seeking advice as to a possible charge?
Even so, arresting someone for an obscured plate is disproportionate.

If the seizure of his camera was illegal, and it may have been as he seems to have it back, legal action could follow as litigation is the national sport in the USA. Although this will only be small beer compared to what Kim Dotcom will be into the FBI and the New Zealand Police for if it's found that their seizure and subsequent handling of the Mega Upload data was illegal.

[Ender EnZed]

I watched the video and really couldn't see too much wrong with the riding. Most certainly didn't seem like they were speeding.

+1

The worst thing going on in the first video was a bit of low speed passing on the inside, the cop's dash cam showed one (small) wheelie and one guy obviously being a dick.

[wanpo]

http://www.wfaa.com/news/Motorcyclis...159671765.html

News article on the same thing, with some (clueless) official being interviewed about the officer's actions

[willytheekid]

In NZ Failure to provide a Police officer with you name and address is enough to have you locked up. So Go for it and remain silent, no skin off my nose.
You clowns should not be allowed to ride motorised vehicles of any sort.
Watch the vid.The officer ignored many other offences in his careful pursuit of the guy he stopped, no one was hurt except the dick with the helmet cams ego.
Then to read some of the posts on the vids commets line, wow.
I don't suspect, I know, if any one of you keyboard warriors were ever in trouble you'd be hollering for our boys in blue pretty quick smart, if any one of you did what these wallies on bikes did you'd expect to go down, wouldn't you?
Grow up!
Get off our roads and make em safer and pleasanter for those of us who ride with no expectation of being picked on and don't give other motorists cause to Hate bikers.

+1

Well said mate

All I saw was squids!...I hate squids!...was hoping he got pepper sprayed/tazzed and beaten (maybe our ACC fees wouldn't be so high if there weren't so many dickheads like this on two wheels)

[Tony.OK]

+1

The worst thing going on in the first video was a bit of low speed passing on the inside, the cop's dash cam showed one (small) wheelie and one guy obviously being a dick.

Ya not see the dash cam where all the bikes started coming back down the motorway on the wrong side when the ute got stopped?

Agree that the dude with helmet cam got a raw deal, looking at the dash cam vid I'd say that the cop was at the end of his tether once he pulled the bike over....................wrong place wrong time perhaps?

Being America I'd say that the dude that harassed the cop car by brake checking is lucky the cop didn't turn off the cam and bowl the dickhead off the road......................must've been tempting

[MentalFacility]

+1

Well said mate

All I saw was squids!...I hate squids!...was hoping he got pepper sprayed/tazzed and beaten (maybe our ACC fees wouldn't be so high if there weren't so many dickheads like this on two wheels)

In USA i think its a fashion statement to have a sports bike and not wear any gear. I never quite understood how it may improve ur show-off skills, so I always wear full gear if I go for a decent ride. In fact I haven't really seen any squids in NZ... apart from those cruiser riders.

[tigertim20]

Hope that fat cunt gets in the shit for that. Glad our police are not like that, I would of grabbed his gun an blown his fucken fat head off.

Id be tempted too!

Hmmmmm this was the cops dash cam before he pulled the biker over.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=L_bFKtx42AM

theres a bit more to it than that.

what it boiled down to, was that this occurred during an organised group ride - an annual event.
The previous year, a few bikes on the organised ride had caused some chaos, and the police decided to respond this year with these tactics.
The cops attitude was, by all accounts, in breach of the riders constitutional rights, the cops IS getting assholed for it, and its become a huge shitstorm on the internet, sadly fuelled by the losers that like to whinge about 'ohhh, all fuckin cops are cunts, and theyre all out t get us and they just hate bikes, and fuck the pigs' - when in reality, this was a fairly isolated incident, that is getting blown a bit out of proportion.

[onearmedbandit]

In USA i think its a fashion statement to have a sports bike and not wear any gear. I never quite understood how it may improve ur show-off skills, so I always wear full gear if I go for a decent ride. In fact I haven't really seen any squids in NZ... apart from those cruiser riders.

A lot of the guys on an American forum I frequent have been pulled over by the police wearing full leathers and been given the 'think you're a racer' treatment purely because of wearing the gear.

[tigertim20]

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and now... B0b's "know your rights" hint of the day:

you have the right against self incrimination, which means you don't actually have to talk to police at all, much less hand over a "license" or "identify yourself"
you have the right to remain silent, even before those kind folk in blue give you that right.

Well, it seems that a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. your right to silence is essentially a right to not incriminate yourself.
In NZ, you are legally compelled to provide a police officer with your name, address and date of birth upon request - this is simply so they can establish your identity. beyond that, you can refuse to say anything else, how ever refusing to give those few details to a police officer can, and will result in an arrest, and a good chance of charges.

perhaps 'BOB' should stick to cooking tips, or the 'agony aunt' section of the women's weekly?

[tigertim20]

A lot of the guys on an American forum I frequent have been pulled over by the police wearing full leathers and been given the 'think you're a racer' treatment purely because of wearing the gear.

Ive heard of that too.
I went to colorado for three weeks in the middle of summer last year (Actually I arrived almost exactly 1 year ago today - funny that!)
In the time I was there I was shocked at how many retard wore a helmet, and maybe gloves, and nothing else. flip flops, crocs, jandals, singlets/wife beaters, t shirts, shorts were the norm.
I saw three people the entire time I was there who were wearing FULL gear (of any type, cordura OR leather), and two of those three were Harley riders. ONE sports bike I saw in full gear. Yes, I actually counted, I wanted to see how many were actually that bad, or if that was just a stereotypical perception we had of american squids - my experience was that the stereotype was pretty fucking bang on for the majority of riders.

[Glowerss]

Ive heard of that too.
I went to colorado for three weeks in the middle of summer last year (Actually I arrived almost exactly 1 year ago today - funny that!)
In the time I was there I was shocked at how many retard wore a helmet, and maybe gloves, and nothing else. flip flops, crocs, jandals, singlets/wife beaters, t shirts, shorts were the norm.
I saw three people the entire time I was there who were wearing FULL gear (of any type, cordura OR leather), and two of those three were Harley riders. ONE sports bike I saw in full gear. Yes, I actually counted, I wanted to see how many were actually that bad, or if that was just a stereotypical perception we had of american squids - my experience was that the stereotype was pretty fucking bang on for the majority of riders.

I actually just moved to NZ from Chicago in the last few years. In Illinois (state where Chicago is located) Helmets aren't even compulsory. My sisters an ER doctor there still, where bikers are known as "organ donors".

The problem is the way bikes are perceived over there. They're basically seen as toys or fashion statements by mostly young males. There's no licensing restrictions t all, and shit I read somewhere that something like 85% of motorcyclists in the states don't even have a license. There's almost no training programs, and because bikes are SO CHEAP back home (You can get a gently used 3 year old GXSR for under 5k. Theyre like 8 brand new) there's little incentive to take care of it or yourself really.

It just boils down to the sort of people buying them. Because the weather is shit over there 90% of the time, you dont see anyone buying them for regular transport like you do here. People buy a motorcycle because they want to go fast and look cool. Doesn't lend itself to safe, responsible riding.

[tigertim20]

I actually just moved to NZ from Chicago in the last few years. In Illinois (state where Chicago is located) Helmets aren't even compulsory. My sisters an ER doctor there still, where bikers are known as "organ donors".

The problem is the way bikes are perceived over there. They're basically seen as toys or fashion statements by mostly young males. There's no licensing restrictions t all, and shit I read somewhere that something like 85% of motorcyclists in the states don't even have a license. There's almost no training programs, and because bikes are SO CHEAP back home (You can get a gently used 3 year old GXSR for under 5k. Theyre like 8 brand new) there's little incentive to take care of it or yourself really.

It just boils down to the sort of people buying them. Because the weather is shit over there 90% of the time, you dont see anyone buying them for regular transport like you do here. People buy a motorcycle because they want to go fast and look cool. Doesn't lend itself to safe, responsible riding.

Yeah I had lengthy conversations with the wifes family (was my first time meeting them) they were kinda iffy when they found out I ride bikes etc. took a lot to get them to realise that its quite different over here - they saw my frustration, as everytime I saw some idiot on a high HP crotch rocket with fuckall safety gear, I couldnt help but cuss, I wanted to get out of the car and smack people silly at intersections.

I spent the last week abusing riders from the drivers seat of the FIL's Jeep everytime I saw a squid at an intersection 'Hey, Asshat, wheres ya helmet?' "Nice leathers dickhead!" and "You got no helmet cos you're to poor to buy one, or cos you have no fuckin brains to protect anyway?" were my favourite go-to insults. Childish, I know but I live in hope that at least one person went home and thought about it after being called out so publicly. I doubt it, but I can hope.

[Akzle]

...your right to silence is essentially a right to not incriminate yourself.


In NZ, you are legally compelled to provide a police officer with your name, address and date of birth upon request - this is simply so they can establish your identity. beyond that, you can refuse to say anything else, how ever refusing to give those few details to a police officer can, and will result in an arrest, and a good chance of charges.

this is a way longer topic than i'm going into tonight.
it will not result in an arrest. i did it just the other day.
and what charges? do you know? (failing to supply details when required by an enforcement officer? )

...and who are they going to charge with that?

Habeas Corpus!