Parking infringement question

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so do you have the eftpos receipt for evidence, if you say you were there for 1.57 minutes then then they should link up pretty well time wise shouldn't they?

The time is on the ticket.

Just a refresher for all the knobs who haven't actually read the thread....

Stationary, waiting for my wife to return to the car, me the driver remaining inside (with engine running for 1.57 minutes), after shop hours in one of approximately 12 spaces set aside for disabled drivers.

Had 12 disabled drivers simultaneously arrived for a spot of "shopping" at the ATM, I could have moved immediately

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From an auckland council website ... funny how there's no mention of any exceptions ...



Mobility Parking (Disabled Parking)

These spaces are reserved for the use of people with a disability or by those who do not have full mobility.

To use them, a vehicle must display an approved permit which can be obtained from CCS Disability Action. Either the driver or the passenger must be the person named on the permit. Vehicles found to be using a space without a permit on display can and will be ticketed.

The alleged 'offense' is: "Parked in area reserved for disabled persons"

The legal question I have is - under the circumstances I described, was I "parked"

The other point from a common sense perspective is - what the fuck is with KB indignant self righteousness (given the scenario described)....I didn't make anyone disabled. Hell no other cunt would even have known probably if there hadn't been a camera positioned for the council to scab some extra revenue.

[FJRider]

Had 12 disabled drivers simultaneously arrived for a spot of "shopping" at the ATM, I could have moved immediately

It is written in legislation that you can park a vehicle over a Fire Hydrant ... if a person able to move that vehicle ... remains in it. NO such legislation is so written for disabled parking spaces ... that I am aware of.

[idb]

As the driver of a car (has to be done some times), I was parked for about a minute in one out of about twelve unused disabled spaces, late one night....and got nabbed

However, I remained in the vehicle (able to move if needed) while my wife drew money from an ATM

I can't find a reference anywhere that addresses the above point. Is this a defense? - the fact that the car was not left unattended (in fact the engine stayed on)

Auckland City Council.

Common sense isn't allowed these days I'm sorry.
The way you describe it sounds like you weren't likely to inconvenience anyone but, unfortunately, that isn't the point.
It's all to do with the laws catering for the biggest wankers, but being applied to everyone.

[FJRider]

The alleged 'offense' is: "Parked in area reserved for disabled persons"

The legal question I have is - under the circumstances I described, was I "parked"

The other point from a common sense perspective is - what the fuck is with KB indignant self righteousness (given the scenario described)....I didn't make anyone disabled. Hell no other cunt would even have known probably if there hadn't been a camera positioned for the council to scab some extra revenue.

It would no doubt appear ... that in the photo, you WERE parked. You were on the parking space ... stopped. On a STOP sign ... I think a minimum of three seconds is required you must be stopped for .... you by your own admission, were stopped for just under two minutes. Otherwise you wouldn't have got a ticket. If you weren't "parked" (ie:moving) ... the photo would be blurred.

I do laugh at the KB indignant self righteous that get a ticket (speeding or parking ... and admit it in their first post) then winge and moan .. asking how they get off it.

Don't park in disabled parking spaces ... and you won't get another one ...

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I do laugh at the KB indignant self righteous that get a ticket (speeding or parking ... and admit it in their first post) then winge and moan .. asking how they get off it.

Don't park in disabled parking spaces ... and you won't get another one ...

Sorry? Where was the winge? Just making an observation that plonkers from page one onwards have used the thread as some sort of opportunity to spew bile...with no justification whatsoever to do so...fill your boots cocksuckers. You people are probably the types whose votes are influenced by car crushing

[Nova.]

As the driver of a car (has to be done some times), I was parked for about a minute in one out of about twelve unused disabled spaces, late one night....and got nabbed

However, I remained in the vehicle (able to move if needed) while my wife drew money from an ATM

I can't find a reference anywhere that addresses the above point. Is this a defense? - the fact that the car was not left unattended (in fact the engine stayed on)

Auckland City Council.

Your car should be crushed.

[Berries]

The alleged 'offense' is: "Parked in area reserved for disabled persons"

The legal question I have is - under the circumstances I described, was I "parked"

The other point from a common sense perspective is - what the fuck is with KB indignant self righteousness (given the scenario described)....I didn't make anyone disabled. Hell no other cunt would even have known probably if there hadn't been a camera positioned for the council to scab some extra revenue.

Common sense would only come in to it if it was a ticket issued by an actual physical person who had had a good day, realised that due to the time of the day you were not inconveniencing anyone and kept walking. Cameras are a totally different kettle of fish. They have to pay for them somehow.

Under the circumstances, were you parked? Yes. Parked, stopped or standing, attended or unattended it is no different to stopping (or parking) on yellow dashed lines, amusingly, in light of this thread, referred to as no stopping lines. In this case it is a parking area reserved for disabled permit holders. It is a BS ticket - 12 spaces and clearly no demand at that time of night, but it is a ticket that would be hard to get out of.

The more important question is why the need for 12 reserved spaces for disabled users? It is not like you are in Christchurch.

[FJRider]

The more important question is why the need for 12 reserved spaces for disabled users? It is not like you are in Christchurch.

It must be a very popular ATM ... (among the disabled permit holders)

[FJRider]

That's what I'm thinking - although it's almost certainly an exercise in futility when the main intention here is revenue gathering

Is the main intention here revenue gathering ... or an attempt to discourage illegal parking on disabled parking spaces ...

Ask yourself ... would you do it again ??? and if the answer is yes ... be prepared for another ticket.

If the answer is no ... their plan is working.

I would imagine the most popular excuse heard by police from a "client" stopped at the roadside ... "I wasn't hurting anybody" ... (instant attitude test fail)

[idb]

Common sense would only come in to it if it was a ticket issued by an actual physical person who had had a good day, realised that due to the time of the day you were not inconveniencing anyone and kept walking. Cameras are a totally different kettle of fish. They have to pay for them somehow.

Under the circumstances, were you parked? Yes. Parked, stopped or standing, attended or unattended it is no different to stopping (or parking) on yellow dashed lines, amusingly, in light of this thread, referred to as no stopping lines. In this case it is a parking area reserved for disabled permit holders. It is a BS ticket - 12 spaces and clearly no demand at that time of night, but it is a ticket that would be hard to get out of.

The more important question is why the need for 12 reserved spaces for disabled users? It is not like you are in Christchurch.

Common sense should always apply, especially when money is being demanded of you.
It doesn't matter whether it's cameras or meter maids.
The demise of fairness and the descent towards the lowest common denominator irks me no end.
/rant

[awayatc]

big difference between parking and stopping....

big difference between common sense and nonsense...

big difference between average blokes and wankers...

fair few below average no sense wankers commenting here...

Stupid ticket, I hope you can get rid of it.

(Next time you wave at another biker, remember that some of them are just dickless twats on 2 wheels......
mind you hopefully you don't meet them on the road......they will probably not get further then their keyboards)

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Maybe you could try driving right up to the ATM machine next time, so you are not on the handicap parking.

[oldrider]

Common sense should always apply, especially when money is being demanded of you.
It doesn't matter whether it's cameras or meter maids.
The demise of fairness and the descent towards the lowest common denominator irks me no end.
/rant

The multitude of this country demand mediocrity or less ..... their success unfortunately is also our demise!

[pritch]

A fairly simple situation.
If you had a handicapped parking card you could take it in and show them.
If you don't have the card, you can take your chequebook.