Comic Jimmy Carr admits off-shore 'tax dodge'

[mashman]

Balance?
Like the Titanic was balanced toward the stern?

The more you crap on about other people's money, the more bitterly envious you sound.
It's quite sad.
You should stop.

Almost... more like sinking evenly.

Of course that how it sounds to you, because that's the only way you can conceptualise my feelings. Which I find utterly amusing given your air of superiority.
That is quite sad.
I do stop, quite frequently.

[Big Dave]

Oscar has no air. He is just a superior example.

[mashman]

Oscar has no air. He is just a superior example.

Air without air... point taken.

[Bridge72]

Their seems to be a lot of hate for Jimmy Carr having taken part in a legal tax avoidance scheme to lower his tax affairs. What he actually did is legal as government are yet to establish a general anti-avoidance rule for what constitutes as an aggressive tax avoidance scheme - set up for the sole purpose of avoiding taxes. If it had been tax evasion, which is illegal, then it would be a completely different matter. But for Cameron to personally comment and say that Jimmy Carr is 'morally wrong' it doesn't seem right for the Prime Minister to comment on Carr's tax affairs but decline to comment on that of Gary Barlow (Take That) who has also been accused in the news of taking part in a tax avoidance scheme; Barlow backed the Tories in their election campaign. Is that fair?

[Winston001]

Not only Jimmy Carr but U2 also use tax shelters while at the same time criticising the wealthy and pleading for the poor of Africa.


By contrast Will I Am (The Voice UK) donated his 500,000 pound earnings to The Prince's Trust. As he said, what am I going to do with all this money - let it do some good.

It is worth remembering that for all the taxdodgers there are others who are philanthropic and do good work. Our own Gareth Morgan for example.

[Brian d marge]

I've explained this before but Murphy's Law, cannot find the post. Suffice to say the whole subject of employment is complex.

Historically full employment is a product of the Industrial Revolution. We've only seen it since the 1820s. Prior to that 30% of the population would not have a regular dependable job all year around. People starved to death in winter when the harvest was bad, and often it was bad. The history of England and Europe is littered with famines.

The "4% unemployed" figure is not a requirement promoted by economists.

Instead it is what economists have observed over decades occuring in balanced economies. 4% appears to be the lowest level of unemployment governments can reach. The lowest level ever was in the USA in 1953 when it reached 2.5% which lasted less than one year.

and the current powers that be are having ANOTHER go at the unemployed http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ets-unemployed

Just like they were told to in 2011 report from those friendly faces , the Bank that cares the IMF

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Acc is a for of tax , and we would all like to reduce the rego part ,,,,,

Stephen

[scumdog]

... but he's sorry !

never heard of him - and not interested in finding out...

[scott411]

Edit: and that includes not claiming for the 3/4 months without work last year after I quit my well paid job.

you would have had a 12 week stand down from the dole if you have quit the job, but good work on the other stuff,

[BoristheBiter]

Balance?
Like the Titanic was balanced toward the stern?

The more you crap on about other people's money, the more bitterly envious you sound.
It's quite sad.
You should stop.

I think he sounds more like one of those "Gareth Morgan" types that have shit loads of money and so thinks he knows all there is to know about everything.

[HenryDorsetCase]

but with no sense of humour it would seem.



excuse number 1 for the thread and an obvious 1 to boot, disappointing, hey ho. There are tax brackets, not tax ceilings! Pay what you are obliged to pay on ALL of your income or you are no better (in fact much worse) than a beneficiary playing the system and indeed do more damage to the country that put you through your schooling and supported you in your meteoric rise to the "top".

Oh no, you mean there are people on this planet that earn more than I do . Fortunately I pay tax on my whole income and do not try to hide it away anywhere, so I am redundant wanker label free... just an ordinary wanker.

I'm just not seeing the issue here.

For a start, its not as if he is screwing up NZ's tax base, given he isnt a citizen. And say he earns 5 or 10 million a year: there are bankers arms dealers and businessmen who you have never heard of that make ten, fifty, a hundred times more than he does. and pay no tax.

So what makes this news? the fact you see his mug on the telly? Here's an answer: give up telly: it seems apparent that giving up jealousy won't happen.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not only Jimmy Carr but U2 also use tax shelters while at the same time criticising the wealthy and pleading for the poor of Africa.


By contrast Will I Am (The Voice UK) donated his 500,000 pound earnings to The Prince's Trust. As he said, what am I going to do with all this money - let it do some good.

It is worth remembering that for all the taxdodgers there are others who are philanthropic and do good work. Our own Gareth Morgan for example.

Yep. Basically the issue here is jealousy: How can that wanker get more than I do? All he does is be a smartarse on the telly!? My mates tell me I'm funny as hell down the boozer, yet I'm stuck flipping burgers at the Macca. No fair. Waaaaaa!

[mashman]

Not only Jimmy Carr but U2 also use tax shelters while at the same time criticising the wealthy and pleading for the poor of Africa.

Plenty of sports people too with some being investigated, pointlessly so, by the the UK IRD.

never heard of him - and not interested in finding out...

His show, Distraction, is fackin brilliant and JC is a dry dry sledgehammer of a man. Recommended viewing, I'd even pay to go see him!

you would have had a 12 week stand down from the dole if you have quit the job, but good work on the other stuff,

Aye, I found that out a few months later. The Bank was pretty snippy about my quitting my job though , cheeky fuckers!

I'm just not seeing the issue here.

For a start, its not as if he is screwing up NZ's tax base, given he isnt a citizen. And say he earns 5 or 10 million a year: there are bankers arms dealers and businessmen who you have never heard of that make ten, fifty, a hundred times more than he does. and pay no tax.

So what makes this news? the fact you see his mug on the telly? Here's an answer: give up telly: it seems apparent that giving up jealousy won't happen.

You're right, I'm sure it doesn't happen in NZ... but as you point out it does happen on a much larger scale and if you can't be 'em, you may as well force your government into debt and then blame the party that you aren't a member of for the financial and social problems that follow. At least you won't be affected and it's the individuals own fault if the lose their jobs etc... innit.

jealousy, yeah, you got me bang to rights big fulla .

[Swoop]

Nope. I said that Government departments are not widely recognised for fiscal efficiency.

They are well versed at calling in "consultants" simply to cover their arses, instead of having some balls and actually making a firm decision and then standing behind it.
If consultants are so necessary it then begs the question of why we have these inept "public servant" parasites in the first place.







There. That should get things fired up...

[Oscar]

and the current powers that be are having ANOTHER go at the unemployed http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ets-unemployed

Just like they were told to in 2011 report from those friendly faces , the Bank that cares the IMF

Snip;



Acc is a for of tax , and we would all like to reduce the rego part ,,,,,

Stephen

By "having a go at the unemployed" do you mean increasing jobs?
As for the IMF, what's so outrageous about their findings? I'm sure the Govt. or anyone with half a clue realises that this country spends too much on welfare.

[Brian d marge]

By "having a go at the unemployed" do you mean increasing jobs?
As for the IMF, what's so outrageous about their findings? I'm sure the Govt. or anyone with half a clue realises that this country spends too much on welfare.

spends too much as in anything? Half of the welfare money is down to ther pension ,,,
as I have shown you many times before

their findings arent so bad ,m all I showed there was that the imfsoke , nz said how high....privatize your essentioal serices , yes sir , privatise your health care .....yes sir we are working on it !

Stephen