Mega bullies, dot com

**Brian d marge** · 5th July 2012, 02:46

http://gizmodo.com/5923432/kim-dotco...pload-shutdown
So the us of an A , doesn’t bully others to get its way

even if this is " garbage" there is no smoke without fire

Somethings amiss

oh,, and wasn’t there the sky net ruling ,

wonder what will be next , Water, Acc ,, Nuclear ,,,,,

Just a thought

Stephen

**Maha** · 5th July 2012, 06:51

They said ''NO'' to two NZ Navy boats participating in the Pearl Harbour celebrations because of our no nukes policy.
I see the irony of that.

**scott411** · 5th July 2012, 08:42

Originally Posted by Maha

They said ''NO'' to two NZ Navy boats participating in the Pearl Harbour celebrations because of our no nukes policy.
I see the irony of that.

bet the Navy boys are stoked with being in Honalulu Habour is way closer to all the tourist bars and beaches anyway,

as to Dotcom, I see last night he says that the others are holding up the hearings, but his lawyers are trying to get off on every technicallity as well, if he thinks he has not done any wrong why does he trying to fight the extradition, why does he not go prove he is right in the US courts, and embarrass the US Goverment and FBI there?

he got into this country since he had a heap of cash, he had convictions that others would have been turned away with, really sick of the whole thing, he has the media wrapped round his finger and he is a master or PR, another trail by media,

**Swoop** · 5th July 2012, 08:56

Originally Posted by scott411

bet the Navy boys are stoked with being in Honalulu Habour is way closer to all the tourist bars and beaches anyway.

I was thinking exactly the same.
Shore runs will be EPIC for the crews!

The US has effectively given a gold-plated parking space to the RNZN.

**Paul in NZ** · 5th July 2012, 09:00

Well if I had a choice I wouldn't want to be tried in a US court (esp if Uncle Sam or worse, Hollywood didn't approve of me)....

Merkins can be a tad punitive on folks Hollywood don't like....

**Paul in NZ** · 5th July 2012, 09:01

Originally Posted by Swoop

I was thinking exactly the same.
Shore runs will be EPIC for the crews!

The US has effectively given a gold-plated parking space to the RNZN.

Curses - atomic weapons trumped by something far far more deadly....

**Swoop** · 5th July 2012, 09:03

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Curses - atomic weapons trumped by something far far more deadly....

I bet the yanks are still miffed over the Aussie sub incident in Pearl. Perhaps not though, since they have short memories.

**paturoa** · 5th July 2012, 10:04

What is wrong with that?

I struggle with this whole dot com thing. Some I've talked with seem to think he is some sort of modern day Robin Hood good character. There are a lot of stupid people on this planet!

The analogy I use is....

There are a lot of criminals out there, breaking into your homes, stealing your property, your goods and your motorbikes.

If someone out there set up a business charging a fee to transport, store, and distribute this stolen property, for both the thieves themselves and to deliver to the people "recieving" these stolen goods, there would be vigilante lynch mobs at his mansion.

Now suppose you went to the popo and they essentially did nothing for years. Would you not then be assembling the vigilante mob and going to visit your local polly?

**scott411** · 5th July 2012, 10:10

Originally Posted by paturoa

What is wrong with that?

I struggle with this whole dot com thing. Some I've talked with seem to think he is some sort of modern day Robin Hood good character. There are a lot of stupid people on this planet!

The analogy I use is....

There are a lot of criminals out there, breaking into your homes, stealing your property, your goods and your motorbikes.

If someone out there set up a business charging a fee to transport, store, and distribute this stolen property, for both the thieves themselves and to deliver to the people "recieving" these stolen goods, there would be vigilante lynch mobs at his mansion.

Now suppose you went to the popo and they essentially did nothing for years. Would you not then be assembling the vigilante mob and going to visit your local polly?

good way to put it,

but trademe does the same thing, at least they track and report the stolen items to the police when alerted to it, (or they used to) Dotcom's offer to take down any offending material is not really the same as assiting the police in apprehending and prosocuting the offenders,

**skippa1** · 5th July 2012, 10:11

Originally Posted by paturoa

What is wrong with that?

I struggle with this whole dot com thing. Some I've talked with seem to think he is some sort of modern day Robin Hood good character. There are a lot of stupid people on this planet!

The analogy I use is....

There are a lot of criminals out there, breaking into your homes, stealing your property, your goods and your motorbikes.

If someone out there set up a business charging a fee to transport, store, and distribute this stolen property, for both the thieves themselves and to deliver to the people "recieving" these stolen goods, there would be vigilante lynch mobs at his mansion.

Now suppose you went to the popo and they essentially did nothing for years. Would you not then be assembling the vigilante mob and going to visit your local polly?

Isnt he more like storage king?

**paturoa** · 5th July 2012, 10:23

Originally Posted by scott411

good way to put it,

but trademe does the same thing, at least they track and report the stolen items to the police when alerted to it, (or they used to) Dotcom's offer to take down any offending material is not really the same as assiting the police in apprehending and prosocuting the offenders,

Originally Posted by skippa1

Isnt he more like storage king?

Retardme I believe works hard to weed out the thieves and they would be a tiny minority on there. Rather than nudge, nudge, wink, wink, come over here. Where the legit people are the minority.

I was not aware that storage king has set up its primary business model / revenue from thieves and recievers. Thinking as I'm typing this I don't recall ever seeing that businesses name in that context. Perhaps the popo should have a nosey?

**oneofsix** · 5th July 2012, 10:25

Originally Posted by skippa1

Isnt he more like storage king?

He provided you a place to store large amounts of data. If you chose to store your family photos and share them from there then good for you. He provided Hollywood moguls with a method of removing any material they thought infringed their protection racket.

The NZ Police and officials were brown nosing fools, the US of A authorities took NZ for a pack of idiots and generally our authorities are trying their hardest to prove them right. A high court judge has made the NZ authorities smell the shit they stuck their noses in.

**bogan** · 5th July 2012, 10:29

Yup, US government doesn't like competition with legal loopholers it seems!

Originally Posted by scott411

as to Dotcom, I see last night he says that the others are holding up the hearings, but his lawyers are trying to get off on every technicallity as well, if he thinks he has not done any wrong why does he trying to fight the extradition, why does he not go prove he is right in the US courts, and embarrass the US Goverment and FBI there?

The US are looking for a scapegoat here, to set an example. They already showed bullying tactics taking down the site, and having NZ police raid his mansion. If it were me I'd want to stay well away from the place too!

Originally Posted by paturoa

What is wrong with that?

I struggle with this whole dot com thing. Some I've talked with seem to think he is some sort of modern day Robin Hood good character. There are a lot of stupid people on this planet!

The analogy I use is....

There are a lot of criminals out there, breaking into your homes, stealing your property, your goods and your motorbikes.

If someone out there set up a business charging a fee to transport, store, and distribute this stolen property, for both the thieves themselves and to deliver to the people "recieving" these stolen goods, there would be vigilante lynch mobs at his mansion.

Now suppose you went to the popo and they essentially did nothing for years. Would you not then be assembling the vigilante mob and going to visit your local polly?

Downloading copies of free-to-air tv shows is a little different to some wanker running off with your laptop wouldn't you say?

**skippa1** · 5th July 2012, 10:38

Originally Posted by paturoa

I was not aware that storage king has set up its primary business model / revenue from thieves and recievers. Thinking as I'm typing this I don't recall ever seeing that businesses name in that context. Perhaps the popo should have a nosey?

Aw come on that is only a subjective view based on what you believe was going on. Doesnt he just provide a storage facility with a cheaper slower access door, or a pay to enter faster entrance. Storage King provide exactly the same service, I stored my bike in one for 4 months, they didnt ask for proof of ownership, a registration number or anything. Are you trying to tell me that the hundreds of storage facilities around NZ dont store stolen goods?

**skippa1** · 5th July 2012, 10:41

Originally Posted by oneofsix

He provided you a place to store large amounts of data. If you chose to store your family photos and share them from there then good for you. He provided Hollywood moguls with a method of removing any material they thought infringed their protection racket.

The NZ Police and officials were brown nosing fools, the US of A authorities took NZ for a pack of idiots and generally our authorities are trying their hardest to prove them right. A high court judge has made the NZ authorities smell the shit they stuck their noses in.

no argument from me. I think he is getting fucked over and I wouldnt wat to go to the US if I were him.