Gareth Morgan in the Herald on ACC levies for bikers

[Crasherfromwayback]

Who is Brent Hutchison?

Stoney. But not sure if he's still here.

[mashman]

Levy the person eh... what a novel idea, I'm all for it. I will ride for 1 day per year and on that day I will crash and fuck my hands up. ACC will pay for a nice nurse to service my needs and I'll get a salary at the same time.

How many ACC levy's do we pay off of our salaries? Hows about a single ACC levy collected at source? It'll cover cyclists, sporting injuries, rock climbing etc... all of those people who do "dangerous" things that don't pay a licence fee for the activity. A licence fee for an activity , sounds like more admin costs to me.

Simplify the lot and base it on the idea that anyone can get injured irrespective of activity (as ACC no doubt once was). Take the required levy costs from our salary (the income stream for every ACC cost). Done, easy and should costs rise in future, no single group gets hammered with a large increase, fair! Lower admin costs being one upside.

[Tigadee]

It'll cover cyclists, sporting injuries, rock climbing etc...

..., base jumping... (After reading the front page of today's Herald.)

[mashman]

..., base jumping... (After reading the front page of today's Herald.)

heh heh, never saw the story... did he live? Either way he gets the same entitlements as if he had slipped on the path at his house... doesn't he?

[HenryDorsetCase]

heh heh, never saw the story... did he live? Either way he gets the same entitlements as if he had slipped on the path at his house... doesn't he?

No, he didnt live. Also he did it in fucking Sweden or somewhere so it is completely irrelevant for present purposes.

[HenryDorsetCase]

actually base jumping/wingsuit flying is a lot like motorbike riding. Perceived by others as insanely dangerous, but not so to the participants (rightly or wrongly). Consequences of a cock up (yours or someone elses) more than likely fatal. Nice scenery. If you dont impact it at high velocity.

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[Oscar]

Stoney. But not sure if he's still here.

He carries on like a complete knob here - how the fuck did he get on the council?

[MisterE]

Well, I guess the Herald article answers the question once and for all. I especially liked the stats

- 45 times more likely to crash per kilometre. Could G-dog have picked a single more inflammatory and one-sided stat than this.
- 31% of all accidents are rider error. Um, doesn't that mean that 69% accidents are the fault of some idiot in a tintop who forgot to pack their seeing eye dog?

Way to go Mr G. If we target all those lemmings who are obviously intentionally throwing themselves under the wheels of those cars just for the sheer hell of it I confidently predict we could reduce ACC cost by a whopping 2-3%


Of course, the real kicker is that we (motorcyclists) paid for this crap. If I was registering my bike these days I'd want my money back.

[MisterE]

The MotoNZ website allows you to place your feedback directly on their homepage. I've done so already and would encourage all of you to do the same

http://www.motonz.co.nz

[gammaguy]

i agree with almost every point Mr Morgan Makes

As usual its a brave govt indeed that will introduce policies that-shock!- reward individual excellence and dilligence and punish stupidity and lack of skills.

I wont be holding my breath...

[Oblivion]

I'd like to see the process of them making these statistics.

[Katman]

- 31% of all accidents are rider error. Um, doesn't that mean that 69% accidents are the fault of some idiot in a tintop who forgot to pack their seeing eye dog?

Um, no. It means 31% of motorcycle accidents we manage all by ourselves.

We are also responsible for about half the multi-vehicle accidents that make up that other 69%.

Back to Comprehension 101 with you.

[imdying]

The guy needs to be face fucked with a chainsaw.

I'm glad he's older than me... statistically I have a good chance of living longer than him and therefore getting a chance to piss on his grave. Or spit on his widow. Or both. Both at the same time would be the ideal.... great, another funeral to go to...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Um, no. It means 31% of motorcycle accidents we manage all by ourselves.

We are also responsible for about half the multi-vehicle accidents that make up that other 69%.

Back to Comprehension 101 with you.

source please?

[Katman]

source please?

Been linked to many, many times on here before.

Someone with greater enthusiasm should be along shortly to provide a link.