Battle of the Buckets Ruapuna, 8-9 September

[richban]

Depends how many turn up I guess, occasionally they catch me at last corner and there are usually quite a few behind me. Seems a massive over reaction due to one guy in his second ever event getting knocked off by someone who made a poor decision on how he was going to pass the rider in front.

Probably not a good idea to work this out on the fast few. I think it should be set buy the best of the rest the guy that runs 10th maybe. Then only the really dangerously slow peep's would have to sit it out. Its not so cut and dry really is it.

[Kickaha]

It has been decided to limit the entry to 40 bikes, and also entry will be dictated by prelim race results, with a qualifying cutoff set at 120%. This means in a 5 lap sprint if you are lapped by the race leader you may not qualify to race the main Endurance event.(

Who made that decision?

[gav]

The meeting included Waldo, Paul Gooch, TimG, Tony Mac, Geoff Cain and Lachie MacDonald. A few others got invites, me included but with a 5.30pm start for the meeting I was never going to get to that, so sent my views by email as did a few others.

[ellipsis]

...sensibilities will reign on the day, mark my words...

[gav]

...sensibilities will reign on the day, mark my words...

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for Neal, anyone dangerously slow might be given a quiet word, and common sense should prevail.

[ellipsis]

too true gav...Lachie and I have put a lot of thought into this, and there's really not a lot to put thought into... there will be time to do all that is reqd for all to have a good day..as always...we are even taking the 63's and 72's off to Levels for you...there will be tired bikes and riders by the end of the day and then there's Sunday...

[TZ350]

This means in a 5 lap sprint if you are lapped by the race leader you may not qualify to race the main Endurance event.

Thought we might send Av or Nigal No Mates down and they can disqualify the rest of the field.

[Kickaha]

Thought we might send Av or Nigal No Mates down and they can disqualify the rest of the field.

Can they do 5-6 laps without blowing up or crashing?

[richban]

Thought we might send Av or Nigal No Mates down and they can disqualify the rest of the field.

Don't tell me No Mates is on the ESE team now. I thought he had well, No Mates! Anyway I don't think a lot of people from up north realize how they roll down south. Whoever you bring and whatever they ride they best bring the A game. And start getting in shape. Make's the GP look like a Sunday drive.

[TZ350]

Can they do 5-6 laps without blowing up or crashing?

Yes I got the quietly confident grin wiped off my face at Taupo, then doubly rubbed in it at Kaitoki ... so I won't be saying much more about the BOB.

[TZ350]

Don't tell me No Mates is on the ESE team now. I thought he had well, No Mates!

Your right, it was just a bit of pre race silly talk....

[Skunk]

Seems a massive over reaction due to one guy in his second ever event getting knocked off by someone who made a poor decision on how he was going to pass the rider in front.

That sounds like a really, really distorted version of something that happened at Manfeild recently. But it must be something else because it's so far from any resemblance to the truth of the circumstances.

I don't think I've ever seen huge (200 kph) speed differences in Buckets... Must be a piss poor rider on a really fast Bucket that caused an accident like that down there...

If that's how it's going to be I can't see the point in going down. I'd really like too but I don't think my Pre 89 will be ready and the Bucket won't be fast enough. Are there any races for the 'slow bastards' like me? Who do I need to email/talk to? Where are the Entry forms and Supp Regs? Do they even want out of towners there

If you want a ride in the truck speak up! Email Vic Club soon as we don't have anywhere near enough yet.

[gammaguy]

call me old

the last time i raced a bucket was my championship winning Kawasaki KH100 at Wigram

would love to get back into it,but my current tiddler is too big...

**shuffles off to the oxygen tent**

[gav]

The details of the accident were covered in this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ith-SI-Buckets
Of course we want you Welly guys there, and its you guys that I think some of these rules are a bit silly.
Personally I'd like to think that all you guys who come down will be fine to start the main race, I've shared the track with most of you and all are fine in my eyes regardless of your speed, but if fast buggers want to slow down a bit that would be sweet too
Entry is on the day.

This is what the current President of BRMC has sent out to some clubs.

CAMS is hosting the BOB. They are a great club and put on excellent race meetings. Their classes are 63, 72, 82, 89, Moderns, F4 and 250/150. We are eligible for the 250/150 class which means we get 2 sprint for races every round. (250 4 stroke and 150 2 stroke)

BOB

As the BOB is a national event and we have looked to adding a few rules to improve the safety of the event and it's ongoing sustainability. It is a 55 minute race +1 lap. The major contributor to accident and human damage is due to speed differentials in the bikes. Ruapuna B circuit is a high speed circuit and most corners are taken at well over 100kph. After a really good meeting last night, the following proposal is to be forwarded to CAMS club to be included in the supplemental rules for the BOB.

All BOB entrants need to be lapping within 120% of the fastest lap time. That means that a rider is not eligible for the BOB if they are lapped by a front runner in a 5 lap race.
The maximum starting number on the grid to around 40.
The riders must have attended at least 3 race meeting this year.
Bikes to be scrutineered.

Basically if you have a good bike and are a proficient and safe on the track you will be eligible.

If there are any issues with the above, please let me know now before we get the Posters printed.

For those coming from North Island, Ruapuna can be privately hired on Friday for $50.
The BOB is on Saturday and then there is Bears on Sunday ($40). Bears have a 12:00 start, 1 practice, 2 races and if all goes well, an all in at then end.

Make this a 3 day weekend of racing. The BMRC members are more that willing to be hosts. Let us know early.

Thanks Wallace

The 250/150 class is basically 150 Streetstock and 250 Prolites and buckets.
Sounds like the Pre 62/72 class will be elsewhere too, so should be plenty of racing available on the day.

[OllyMoto]

Just one thought, if the BOB is the main event of the day and the other racing is although important, but not the main reason for the majority of attending in buickett class. Why Not give all slow riders a yellow jacket for the "QUALIFYING" races and come to a collective community agreement to not lap anyone before the BOB so all that have made big efforts to attaned at least get to participate. Thinking outside of the box? If you cant beat the machine shen simply side step it!

This is not how i would like to see things done but in this world you do what you have to for the greater good.

If this Idea works i might add there is no reason why this same level of tolerance cant be applied to every race, not by banning lapping slow riders but by perhaps giving a little more consideration to slow riders you are lapping (if you are that fast of course).

Just a thought. Sadly i wont be there this year as the Handbrake has me sitting on a beach somewhere but i hope it all goes well and all that turn up get a good safe ride and enjoy the weekends racing.