How can I make my indicators stay on and not flash when riding?

**Ultrasonic2** · 24th July 2012, 13:20

i want to increase the safety of my motorbike and have all 4 indicators on all the time but not flashing and when i indicate the side that is indicating gose on and off while the other side stays on and when im not indicating at all all indecaters stay on

my old flatmate of years ago added this to his bike and it seems like a good i idea but i can find anything out there . also would it be legal ?

EDIT

Or man i wish i would go back and fix the title spelling

**BRAD BRASCO** · 24th July 2012, 13:25

Beats me?

Is that legal to have them on constant?

**bogan** · 24th July 2012, 13:40

Some bikes having running lamps in the indicators, these stay on when the running lamps are switched on, and are dimmer than the indicators, which flash as normal. I think they are a better way to go than an always on, flash off approach. Think about the target audience, inattentive drivers, those same drivers will maybe glance at you briefly, and if one side is on, and one off, which way will they think you are turning?

**Gremlin** · 24th July 2012, 13:41

Yes, it is legal, some bikes come with it setup from factory. Not sure how legal to add later, but some have done it recently (or repaired) so should be along shortly. I've also corrected your spelling and moved the post to the correct area.

My mind has gone blank, but I think they are classed as running lights? Usually you need extra wiring to wire them for staying on, but you wouldn't want them at full brightness.

edit: As bogan said, I'm also hesitant about the full safety effect...

**Ultrasonic2** · 24th July 2012, 14:14

I feel obliged to do something since at the end of the day I’ll be the dead one. It’s my experience that people don’t even look before changing lanes. So for someone to glance at me I would consider that a win.

Im quite happy for it to be annoying to others because that’s what I want, People to see me

**Gremlin** · 24th July 2012, 14:20

We're not saying it's annoying... we're saying people will mis-understand the information you are giving out...

**bogan** · 24th July 2012, 14:23

Originally Posted by Gremlin

We're not saying it's annoying... we're saying people will mis-understand the information you are giving out...

Indeed. Better to go with dedicated running light than fuck with your indicators imo. And DRLs aren't a silver bullet either, you'll still need to be vigilant for inattentive road users.

**cs363** · 24th July 2012, 14:40

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2

i want to increase the safety of my motorbike and have all 4 indicators on all the time but not flashing and when i indicate the side that is indicating gose on and off while the other side stays on and when im not indicating at all all indecaters stay on

my old flatmate of years ago added this to his bike and it seems like a good i idea but i can find anything out there . also would it be legal ?

EDIT

Or man i wish i would go back and fix the title spelling

If you really want to do it, here's a plug and play option: http://www.soundoffrec.com/products/lights.aspx
As a rule it's usually only the front indicators that are used as running lights FWIW.

**oneofsix** · 24th July 2012, 14:43

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2

I feel obliged to do something since at the end of the day I’ll be the dead one. It’s my experience that people don’t even look before changing lanes. So for someone to glance at me I would consider that a win.

Im quite happy for it to be annoying to others because that’s what I want, People to see me

Just be aware that if they aren't seeing your headlight they are unlikely to see your indicators when hard on. Also that when you confuse the brain it often uses the option of ignoring the input until it can understand it so more is not always better, you don't want their brain comprehending when it receives the additional input by way of the sound of the collision.

**Ultrasonic2** · 24th July 2012, 15:15

Thanks SC I had a look and it’s not quite what im looking for that was all about using your rear indicators as additional brake lights it would seem.

**Maha** · 24th July 2012, 15:16

We had a Radian that did that....running lights we called them.

**Ultrasonic2** · 24th July 2012, 15:45

alot of people call them DRL daytime running lights but there doesn't seem to be any kits i can buy to get my indicators to work like that

**bogan** · 24th July 2012, 15:49

Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2

alot of people call them DRL daytime running lights but there doesn't seem to be any kits i can buy to get my indicators to work like that

You would need dual filament bulbs, and extra wiring for the whole lot, including to the switchgear. So not surprising they don't make kits for it.

**James Deuce** · 24th July 2012, 15:59

Nearly ten years now on KB and NO ONE EVER GOES TO THE OFFICIAL SOURCE OF TRAFFIC REGULATIONS WHEN THEY WANT TO MODIFY A BIKE!

ffs. That was a sad little "ffs", with no venom or energy in it.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ge...right.html#day

This next one makes me giggle, cos it's an RVF or VFR in the pic and the headlights on the RVF are never this bright on dip.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...ht-riding.html

Here's some stuff about what inspectors look for when they inspect the lighting on your bike.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/vi...hting-v4a4.pdf

**James Deuce** · 24th July 2012, 16:02

There are a huge range of products you can buy to put on your bike or use to modify existing indicator installations.

http://www.bikevis.com/

http://www.chromeglow.com/index.asp?category=25865

Here's a thread on a lighting forum discussing visibility options.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...running-lights

Here's some cool products for safety nerds. They have a specific module for converting indicators into Daytime Running lights.

http://www.pashnit.com/product/signal_dynamics.html