i don't really know where to start on this. it's a long topic and i've covered most of it before.Originally Posted by Glowerss
1) (bold type above) it IS a matter of FORCE. for someone to impeach on my natural rights, or for me to impeach someone elses, it needs to be done by FORCE, not consent, assent or to each's mutual benefit.
2) (also bold typeface, above) yeah, i'll admit, i'm fortunate to be in a country where dissent isn't going to get me shot. were i in one of the countries where it would. i would probably have an AK47 and a band of brothers who engage the government policy enforcers in skirmishes. a la, syria.
fortunately, this is not the case here and i can engage in mental and legal skirmishes to claim the rights they seek to deprive me of.
3) (by living in NZ...)
=NO
a society, as legally defined here in NZ, i s a group of people joined by MUTUAL CONSENT to deliberate, determine and act towards common goals. now, the goals of "new zealand society" are vastly at odds with my goals. and i do not consent to being part of that society.
the argument was raised last time this discussion came up, that societies have rules, and that here i'm a member of KB society and bound by their rules. this is true, the difference being that I WILLINGLY SIGNED UP FOR THIS SOCIETY. i was not coerced, the rules were not hidden in millions of pages of legalese jargon, and it's unlikely the policy enforcement here will try and force money from me for infracting those rules.
4)(doubt any judge or police officer...) actually, there have been several cops good enough to listen to me, engage in intelligent conversation, and fuck off. as for a judge i've only had the fortune to test a few minor cases, which i knew would win anyway.
next time you're in court begin by stating that "you will only enter if the court recognizes your inherent inalienable birth rights and sovereignty" - watch the judges face.
5)if the government would put to paper that i am free and clear of their society and it's rules, that they would never try to coerce me or my employer to deduct money from my sweat for "taxes", that their policy enforcement division would never again waste my time, that any ministry, agency or crown employee would NEVER phone, write, email or otherwise harrass me again, that i could purchase things with their currency minus the 15% "GS"tax, booze and smokes without the 50+% tax, that they wouldn't hussle me for growing/smoking dope, crystal meth, opium, salvia or ayahuasca etc etc etc,
then 100% emphatically yes. it would be a small-small price to pay.
the difference here being that even under common law, or civil law, in injuring me (which is actually the only crime). a debt would be created upon that individual, licence or no, a debt to me. ( a "crime" requires an injured party. most court cases in NZ, however the media brands them, are civil cases.)
and what guarantee that a licensee is a) not going to hit me and b) fork out in any way for any treatment i may require?
my question stands.
AM I OBLIGED TO HOLD A LICENSE?
and another one.
are men born free?
"have".
i'm not entirely sure i (or even you) understand the intent of your question.
a berth certificate was created to denote the birth event (of me being born) however, not being a legal/lawful witness, (merely an infant) i cannot attest to it's truthfulness. nor do i accept that it created "me" as i'm pretty sure "i" exist without the certificate...
FYI: a berth certificate creates a CORPORATE fiction or PERSON (interpretation act - person) (google capitus diminutio maxima) which is squarely in the realms of the government, and exactly the same as the certificate you will receive if you ever in-CORPORATE a company. - the company name, the date of incorporation, the directors (parents) etc.
it also creates an obligation and legal joinder, (if you allow it to), between you, as a human born free and with lots of rights, and the PERSON, who (legally) "has the capacity for rights and duties".
whenever you claim that the card in your wallet is "your ID" you are accepting joinder with the corporation, the corporation who has a stack of debts already imposed on them, the corporation bound by the government. you are taking on the role of secretary of that corporate trust, (you're sure as shit not the beneficiary), unfortunately for you (but yay for society at large eh?), the people who administer that corporate trust (teh govt) don't always have your best interests at heart.
don't believe me? ask the IRD.
you never applied for an IRD number did you? it was assigned at the incorporation of your berth, to balance the fucking books.
you don't pay tax. they take tax, and they dangle the carrot (would you rather be hit with the BIG stick,, or the LITTLE one?): if you are gainfully employed and "undeclared tax code" your EMPLOYER must pay 40% tax. if you declare your corporate taxation code, the employer pays less.
hot fucking deal. 30% ( 1-2 working days) EVERY WEEK, you are doing for all the "benefits" you receive for being part of that NZ society, wittingly or no.
put it this way (another question. try answering the first one)
if the government was floated as a limited liability company, for the benefits they provide, (and the 40k$ debt per capita!!) would you invest 50% of your sweat in them?
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