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    Angry Still can't figure out what's wrong with my Suzuki TS

    I've had my Suzuki TS now for quite sometime but I haven't been able to enjoy it out on the road yet as I can't figure whats going on with it. I did take it to the local mechanics (Langlands) last time and I ended up having $500 eaten out of my back pocket (mind you they did get it going).

    Here are a list of the problems:
    Engine turns over but won't start (with the choke up/on, and the fuel tank on - not on reserve or off) I know how to kick start a 2 stroke engine as I have done it before, but this time its not going at all.
    Blinkers/Indicator lights going but not blinking.
    Headlight is not going (brake lights are fine though).

    I have a Haynes manual, but I can't get my head around half of the terminology that's being used and I don't know where to look in the manual for the problems posted above. My manual suggests several things:

    Engine does not Start When Turned Over;

    No Fuel Flow to the Carburetor - I don't know how to determine this on my motorcycle (there are no pictures in my manual covering this subject)
    Fuel not Reaching Cylinder - Same as above
    Engine Flooding - I have done the usual things so far (choke on, checking the fuel tank - I don't think the engine is flooding due to my kick starting technique since I have got the motorcycle up and running before)
    No Spark at Plug
    Weak Spark at Plug
    Compression Low

    Electrical Problems;

    Battery Weak or Dead - I don't think this is the problem as some of the lights are working, while others are not
    Battery Overcharged - I have my doubts on this (as the motorcycle was working fine after it was taken to the mechanics, the battery has not been charged since)
    Total Electrical Failure - I don't think this is the problem as some of the lights are working, while others are not
    Circuit Failure - This could be the culprit, but I don't fully understand basic motorcycle mechanics to determine this (my dad who has experience with electronics also thinks this might be one of the problems)
    Bulbs Blowing Repeatedly - I have not experienced this when I turn on the motorcycle

    I would love to diagnose and fix my motorcycle myself and I would get a mechanic to do it if it didn't eat so much out of my pocket.
    I do have the correct tools for the job now (as my manual recommended).

    Thanks for reading, any help is appreciated.

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    Sounds like we might need to make a field trip to see... Too much going on to diagnose over the net..

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    What was wrong with it when you took it into the bike shop and what did they do to fix it?

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    you're in Greytown; Go see Doug
    he's been around so long that when he was young the dead sea was only sick.
    he'll be able to give you an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    you're in Greytown; Go see Doug
    he's been around so long that when he was young the dead sea was only sick.
    he'll be able to give you an idea.
    Where could I find him? Is he a local mechanic in Greytown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    What was wrong with it when you took it into the bike shop and what did they do to fix it?
    They mainly fixed the eletricals, I can't remember everything that they went over, but I'm pretty sure it was to do with the indicators, headlight, and I'm pretty sure they also installed a new battery. Hmm... I wonder if the problem is lose connections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    Where could I find him? Is he the local mechanic in Greytown?
    west street tell him spyda sent you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    They mainly fixed the eletricals, I can't remember everything that they went over, but I'm pretty sure it was to do with the indicators, headlight, and I'm pretty sure they also installed a new battery. Hmm... I wonder if the problem is lose connections?
    get the job sheet out, it'll stop the next person going over stuff you've already paid for

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    There is also Barry Jessop Motorcyle services Kitchener Street Masterton. Much cheaper Hourly rate than the other bike shops in town as he works from home.
    Ride it until the wheels fall off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    west street tell him spyda sent you
    Ah yes, so he's located on the same street I live on. Is he located behind Challenge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    Ah yes, so he's located on the same street I live on. Is he located behind Challenge?
    You're making it hard, its'a small town, I've given you the street, and the name; if you can't find him there's really no helping you.
    That's all sorry

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    The older TS were pigs on spark plugs, I would pop a new plug in, could be a cheap fix

    TS is good honest simple bikes

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    Being a two-stroke ... My bet would be the plug is buggered .... Or at least needs a clean. Look at THAT first.

    And the other thing to look at would be ... it may be flooding. Turn the fuel tap off when not in use.

    If it's a 2003 one ... it will be "modern" enough for a CDI ignition.(I may stand to be corrected on this) They dont last forever ...

    BUT ... if the air-filter is dirty ...

    It needs fuel/air/spark to run. You find what it doesn't have.
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Being a two-stroke ... My bet would be the plug is buggered .... Or at least needs a clean. Look at THAT first.

    And the other thing to look at would be ... it may be flooding. Turn the fuel tap off when not in use.

    If it's a 2003 one ... it will be "modern" enough for a CDI ignition.(I may stand to be corrected on this) They dont last forever ...

    BUT ... if the air-filter is dirty ...

    It needs fuel/air/spark to run. You find what it doesn't have.
    This is what my father concluded after I gave him the electrical diagrams and had a quick look over the motorcycle, my dad is experienced with electronics and he believes the problem is electrical. He was surprised to see that my motorcycle even had a CDI ignition, but he appears to be pretty confident that he knows what he's looking at.

    Me and my him are going to go over it more thoroughly tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    You're making it hard, its'a small town, I've given you the street, and the name; if you can't find him there's really no helping you.
    That's all sorry
    Thats ok, I'm fairly new to my town and don't know the folk here very well. I only know of the mechanics behind Challenge (R&B Motors), and I haven't yet spoken to them yet to ask whether or not they service motorcycles.

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