MotoGP 2012

[Mental Trousers]

You like it rough eh? I haven't read Simons book. But I've got a pretty good memory of what went down when, when it comes to GP racing. And I think Simon may've changed his tune. Because at the time...he always said he couldn't get to grips (geddit?) with Michelin tyres.

I'm sure that at the time he couldn't figure out the Michelin's, but that wasn't the sole reason (or even the main reason) for him quitting GP. The way I understood it he was sick of all the political and off-the-track shit that goes on at that level and not being able to ride the bike properly was another of many reasons to pack it in.

[DidJit]

... all the political and off-the-track shit that goes on...

Doesn't that go on in any form and level of racing/sport?

[jellywrestler]

Unless you want to cound selected couple doing the occasional IOM, but that does not compete with SBK or Moto GP

Selected couple doing the occasional, don't belittle the NZ input into the place; there's over 120 Kiwis who've turned a wheel at the Isle of Man TT races and since they first went there, in 1910, there's only been a very few years where we haven't had someone compete.

Crafar may not have enjoyed the politics of the GP's but that's not what saw him leave the scene, he lost his ride as he wasn't performing, You actually need to have a bike to ride in the class BTW

[Oscar]

Selected couple doing the occasional, don't belittle the NZ input into the place; there's over 120 Kiwis who've turned a wheel at the Isle of Man TT races and since they first went there, in 1910, there's only been a very few years where we haven't had someone compete.

Crafar may not have enjoyed the politics of the GP's but that's not what saw him leave the scene, he lost his ride as he wasn't performing, You actually need to have a bike to ride in the class BTW

He's not belittling anyone - he was referring to the current state of affairs.

Notwithstanding that, and its history, the IOMTT is now an sporting backwater, a glorious anachronism but almost irrelevant to this discussion.

[Fast Eddie]

pfft

Isle of Man TT is the best event in motorbike racing. end of it.

[Oscar]

pfft

Isle of Man TT is the best event in motorbike racing. end of it.

I respect your right to express your opinion (however deluded), but you should probably review the thread title. Perhaps if you want talk about dinosaurs of the motorsport world you could start your own thread, maybe summat like “Old Farts remember when British Iron ruled the world..”

[Crasherfromwayback]

I respect your right to express your opinion (however deluded), but you should probably review the thread title. Perhaps if you want talk about dinosaurs of the motorsport world you could start your own thread, maybe summat like “Old Farts remember when British Iron ruled the world..”

I've never been into the TT that much. Huge respect to anyone that races there...but to me, it's more about disengaging brain than it is pure skill. Don't get me wrong..they're awesomely talented and skilled racers obviously. But not many of them would/could cut it at the higest level on closed circuits now days. Kudos to them though. Their nuts are 100 times larger than mine that's for sure.

[Fast Eddie]

I respect your right to express your opinion (however deluded), but you should probably review the thread title. Perhaps if you want talk about dinosaurs of the motorsport world you could start your own thread, maybe summat like “Old Farts remember when British Iron ruled the world..”

haha.. im barely a quarter century old i'll change the old farts bits but can do the rest

its not a dinosaur.. number of competitors and spectators was highest this year than ever and growing..

I think motoGP is dying..

I stopped watching when the 2 strokes were booted out

[Fast Eddie]

I've never been into the TT that much. Huge respect to anyone that races there...but to me, it's more about disengaging brain than it is pure skill. Don't get me wrong..they're awesomely talented and skilled racers obviously. But not many of them would/could cut it at the higest level on closed circuits now days. Kudos to them though. Their nuts are 100 times larger than mine that's for sure.

yea doesn't sound too far off really.

I follow the TT riders during the year and some do pretty well in the UK and european short circuit series etc.. the top guys can cut it on the short circuit too.

but yea, don't see any of them in superbikes or gp... or vice versa.. I don't know of any current sbk or motogp riders that are keen to give the TT a go..

I guess near certain death is a put off when ur a millionaire with umbrella babes

[Fast Eddie]

anyway. back to talking about motogp for you lads.

[Oscar]

haha.. im barely a quarter century old i'll change the old farts bits but can do the rest

its not a dinosaur.. number of competitors and spectators was highest this year than ever and growing..

I think motoGP is dying..

I stopped watching when the 2 strokes were booted out

They get a quarter of a million to throw tomatoes at each other in Spain every year, but that's not relevant either.

If MotoGP is dying, why are they struggling to fit 20 races into the schedule? Why are Suzuki and BMW developing new bikes as we speak?

[DidJit]

Those TT fellas are just wired up a lil' differently I reckon. A lot of respect their way from the SBK and GP riders that visit. BSB rider, Josh Brookes, tweeted this year that he was keen to give the TT a go after doing the parade lap at somewhat more of a clip than one would deem parade pace.

Anyhoo, not sure if anyone else posted this after Laguna Seca, but it seems CEII found a modification that allowed him to ride his POS somewhat faster in qualifying — he took his seat off.

[Fast Eddie]

They get a quarter of a million to throw tomatoes at each other in Spain every year, but that's not relevant either.

If MotoGP is dying, why are they struggling to fit 20 races into the schedule? Why are Suzuki and BMW developing new bikes as we speak?

prob cause trucking the whole circus around to 20 different places is a logistics nightmare? I wouldn't know.. why are they?

what else do motorcycle factories have to do apart from develop new bikes?

But.. BMW are making a motoGP bike? could be keen to watch that.. I love em.

[5150]

but yea, don't see any of them in superbikes or gp... or vice versa.. I don't know of any current sbk or motogp riders that are keen to give the TT a go..

I guess near certain death is a put off when ur a millionaire with umbrella babes

One Carl Fogarty gave the TT a go couple of times in the past. He even held the lap record at the TT for several years. Oh, and He won few SBK championships in his time, AND he even raced GP500's

[Fast Eddie]

One Carl Fogarty gave the TT a go couple of times in the past. He even held the lap record at the TT for several years. Oh, and He won few SBK championships in his time, AND he even raced GP500's

legend.

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